The Nucleus! That's Where it Hides: 3/26 Banter and Game(s) Thread, Rays at Jays
by hugo on Mar 26, 2010 11:35 AM EDT
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PrintHi everyone. I don't think today's game is broadcast, but I figured we could use a game thread and a few notes anyway. In honor of split squad day, today's title comes from "The Mitosis Waltz" by T-Dot's very own Moxy Fruvous. Even though we all know that science and math can't actually be useful in our daily lives because we live in a universe of infinite probabilities.
In a good news, bad news situation, Brandon Morrow threw a bullpen session today and felt good. He'll make his start on Monday. But Dustin McGowan (right shoulder fatigue) has been shut down for another two weeks. He could be a few months away at best.
The Jays lineup for the Dunedin game:
Jose Bautista, 3b
Aaron Hill, 2b
Jeremy Reed, lf
Lyle Overbay, 1b
Chris Lubanski, rf
Michael McDade, dh
Seabass Gonzalez, ss
Raul Chavez, c
Joey Gathright, cf
Shaun Marcum, p
We also take on the Red Sox in the other half. Feel free to use this as an open thread to discuss the games, today's news, and everything else under the sun.
Also, I have been asked to remind folks to make their picks in the fantasy draft.
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Can we get a mention for people to make their picks in the fantasy draft?
Lookin’ at you jessef
Ball.
Thanks hugo
On to who ever’s team is Chocolate Thunder.
People need to set up a draft queue in the draft window so we can put some time limits later on and you’ll still draft who you want even if you’re not there.
Ball.
Well....let's give it the weekend...
I’d rather not force autopicks unless we have to….we have 10 days until the start of the season.
thats me
I thought I set it to autopick. I set my queue before I left this morning and tirned autopilot on. Did it pick? I can’t see on my phone.
by NHfishercatsfan on Mar 26, 2010 1:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Still waiting...
Must not be set to autopick?
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
There's a Paul Beeston web chat in about 20 minutes
but I’m sure it’s moderated so there’s no way my question will get through.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
It was going to be a more verbose version of
After 2009, how can we ever trust you again?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
you never know
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Line up at Boston
McCoy LF
Emaus 2B
Lind DH
Wells CF
Ruiz 1b
Encarnacion 3B
Buck C
Snider RF
McDonald SS
Cecil P
Ball.
Beeston says contract will be limited to 4 years (not counting options)
Nice to have an admission that we won’t pursue anyone good.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Who´s contract? Adeinis´ or the new Cito´s contract?
"Without a catcher we´ll have a lot of passed balls!" Casey Stengel
by jaysfanfromeurope on Mar 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
All contracts
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Their chat client doesn't allow copy-pasting for some reason
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Torgen would you mind updating anything worthy from the chat, for some reason I
can’t view the browser
The last two answers have been pretty content-free
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Q: Why are you raising ticket prices when you're going to suck? (paraphrased)
A: (spin)
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I mean, seriously. "We're going to put that money back in the organization"
My default assumption wasn’t that you’d spend it on hookers and blow.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
A: Because we believe it will make us more money.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
I am cool with that. It would be interesting is someone did an analysis of the value of long-term versus short-term contracts to see if they really panned out in MLB. I expect that long-term contracts often do not work out so great.
Long-term contracts don't necessarily do well in the long term
but you’re usually getting an amazing player now. Even if the last two years of every six year contract suck, that still means two out of three teams in the AL East that sign players to them will be ahead of us and our principles.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Games already started?
"Without a catcher we´ll have a lot of passed balls!" Casey Stengel
by jaysfanfromeurope on Mar 26, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
via Bastian's twitter, Marcum gave up 3 runs in first and even better, Overbay removed
from game, limping off of field with trainer
Invitation to the Randy-bandwagon....
"Without a catcher we´ll have a lot of passed balls!" Casey Stengel
by jaysfanfromeurope on Mar 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps the platoon question will be a moot point
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
3-0 Rays... Looks like Marcum has his bad day this spring...
"Without a catcher we´ll have a lot of passed balls!" Casey Stengel
by jaysfanfromeurope on Mar 26, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
Q: Will you choose the new manager?
A: it will be AA’s call.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Tater by Kyle Phillips to tie it at 3....
"Without a catcher we´ll have a lot of passed balls!" Casey Stengel
by jaysfanfromeurope on Mar 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
Very Well Done
Someone asked Beeston about how folks could say that Halladay is the best player ever developed by the Jays without giving regards to Stieb or Fernandez. Beeston answered they are all good but it is fair to say the Jays “never developed a better player”. Nice, effectively saying, Roy is the best ever developed but not necessarily better than others. A+ for diplomacy on that one.
Two thirds of the questions are being answered with spin
Of course that would be one of them. Not that I’m surprised.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Q: Will the series vs. Philly be moved due to the G20 summit?
A: Don’t plan to; working through the issues with the cops.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Q: Open-air, baseball-only stadium?
A: Maybe in 25-30 years.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
And he seems to think other open-air stadiums just have a hole in the roof
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
no way it lasts that long
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I’d be surprised if it goes down in less than twenty years. It is pretty well built, and surprisingly open for upgrades thanks to the intentionally modular construction. It’s not like the Big O in Montreal which was a nightmare from the start structurally. Fifty years on the ’dome is not out of the question.
If Toronto builds another ballpark, I think it’ll go back to the Exhibition grounds area to do it. The only other options would be somewhere up at Downsview, or out near the Beaches. If they tear down the ‘dome, it’ll be to turn it into high rises or extend the Convention Centre that way.
Extending the convention centre would be the more likely option, because I think they’d rather keep it public land, but it really depends on the shape of downtown at the time.
That being said, I think if they went for a new ballpark, it would be around the Ex somewhere. The CNE isn’t what it used to be, and the area is both under-utilized and well connected for traffic access/transit.
Yeah, it could be quite the boon for the CNE
From a personal standpoint though, I’d rather it be built a little more north, not in the downtown core
Ball.
Basically that means Downsview, which is possible, but you’d need to seriously upgrade the transit in that area.
Nothing like a new stadium to get the transit ball rolling
Unless you’re the Ontario government that is
Ball.
Amen Brother
If they kill the LRT, I swear Miller is going to personally hunt down McGuinty and wear his skin as a suit.
Personally, I really like the ballpark being in the core, just because of how Toronto is laid out. All roads lead to the ‘dome, so to speak, which you wouldn’t get out at Downsview as much. But I can see them pitching it as part of the whole Downsview renewal project.
Actually, I’d love to see a small ballpark there for Ontario competitive leagues and things, like Christie Pits.
how about on one of the islands?
that would be sweet!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
No major development like that would be allowed. The city council nearly had a civil war over a permanent footbridge to the island. Putting in an MLB ballpark would see Yonge st burning…
I know it is totally impractical and would never happen
but you have to admit it would be sweet
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I think structurally it could handle it
I just don’t see any way the Jays continue to play there that long
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Why?
Seriously, I know people rag on the ‘dome, but I’ ve been to other ballparks and I don’t find it a negative place to watch baseball. It’s got good sightlines for the cheap seats, it’s got fast access into the stadium, the park itself is well balanced as neither greatly a pitcher or hitter park, and it has the capacity to upgrade or retool if needed. So what’s the key flaw, because I honestly don’t get it?
Dome itself is fine I've found
My only complaint is that usually the inside is so devoid is atmosphere, and I’m not talking about just the fans.
Ball.
yep, I have been to other ball parks too and there is nothing wrong with Rogers CTR … not really sure what folks are complaining about
Really?
I’m completely the opposite of you guys on this one. I’ve been to many ballparks around the league, and I find the Rogers Dome to be just about the most boring, pathetic, horrible place to watch a baseball game that I’ve ever been to … and I’ve seen a baseball game in Kansas City (so I’m not just comparing it to the great places like Wrigley). It’s bearable when the Dome is open and the sun is out … sometimes. But still just a big slab of concrete and completely lacking in personality. Even the food and employees which help to add to the experience of going to the ballpark are pathetic in Toronto if you ask me.
the K isn't a bad stadium at all
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I guess the problem that I have is that I don’t much care for the personality of the park. I go to a decent number of minor league games, and I enjoy that atmosphere of the clubby seats and the wind and sun, and ‘HAAAVETCHA!’ of the beer guys, etc. But going to see a big league game, I’m there for the game. I want good sightlines, a reasonably priced mid-level ticket, and easy access into and out of the stadium.
I’m not trying to denigrate any of the new retro-look stadiums, because most of them are good and respectful of baseball’s traditions, and Camden Yards is a jewel, but I don’t need that to enjoy the game. When I do want that feel; the smell of hotdogs and dirt and urine and popcorn in the sun, the heat of the plastic seat back under your forearms as you lean forward to watch the 2-2 pitch, I don’t need to rely on the Jays park to do that. In fact, I’m happy to trade it for pleasant weather, no delays or rainouts, and a comfortable atmosphere for my $65 ticket to see MLB ball.
I hear where you’re coming from. I guess for me, to get me out from in front of my tv to watch the game I need the atmosphere … I need more than just the game that i could see on my TV. To get me from watching to game to going to the park, the park has to add something to the experience … and the Dome just doesn’t IMO. And it’s not like I have to commute to get there either, front door to ticket line I’m looking at maybe a solid 2 minutes, depending on how busy the elevators are.
That’s funny, because the fact that it’s so close is in part why how it looks doesn’t really matter to me. It’s like… going to a movie in a gorgeous old restored movie theater from the 50s. It does add to the experience, it’s very nice to feel that link with history and you enjoy it. However, you’re going there for the movie, so if it happens to be in a cookie cutter Cineplex, it doesn’t take anything away from the movie itself. So I guess it would be nice if the Jays had a Camden Yards kind of yard to play at, but I don’t need it, and I actually enjoy the positive elements of the ‘dome that the concrete starkness doesn’t bother me at all. But I do understand your point, certainly.
I’m guessing you’re in one of those condos in the old parking lot around beside Spadina?
I actually would agree on the movies, I think sports are different. I think sports is more than just about the game, it’s about the fans and the atmosphere. Have you ever been to a TFC game? If so, you’ll know what I mean. Or if you’ve ever sat in the CF bleachers at Wrigley … that’s not JUST baseball, it’s an experience. I don’t expect that full experience, but even when I go to a TFC game I know there is more there than just a pitch and some players. Heck, I think you could easily argue the quality of football played in MLS is nowhere near the quality of baseball in MLB … even when it’s John Buck and Jose Bautista you’re going to watch. But the quality of experience, TFC vs Jays? No comparison.
Yeah, one of the many, many, many, many condos that have popped up around Spadina in recent years.
How much of that is the stadium and how much is the crowd? I was at the Jays/Yankee game that had Burnett against Halladay, and that place rocked like a rocking thing. I went down to Kaufman stadium in Kansas City last year, which is now a gorgeous ballpark, but there were maybe 10,000 fans in it, and as pretty as the park was, it was a dead crowd.
Oh no question a big part of my problem is the crowd … see my other comments. And if you could rock the Dome with 50k again it would certainly be much better, but all else equal it’s not on the level of other parks. Kauffmann full vs Dome full? I take Kaufmann. Kaufmann empty vs Dome empty? I take Kaufmann. Of course we’ll never have a park like that in T.O., will always have a roof of some sort, but I think you get my point.
That's Fair
Yeah, I think the thing is that we are going to need something with a roof, and if you’re going to have a domed stadium, I think the ‘dome is best of the bunch so far. I’d like them to get more creative with what they do with it, since there are a lot of little things that they could do to make it a lot less uniform across the space.
What they need is a design like Safeco
but where the roof retracts over the nosebleeds instead of blocking the sky over RF. Also right on the waterfront so we can have splash hits.
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
I couldn't agree more
I wish the crowd was more lively, though. I’ve been to a couple of really exciting games there, but others have been a little blah
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Actually one of my MAJOR pet peeves with the Jays is they seem to squash any chance for a lively crowd. Booing, for one, is not allowed … if ushers hear it they will almost immediately ask you to stop. Are you kidding me? No other sporting event that I’ve ever been to is heckling the road team discouraged, except at the Rogers Dome. They should take all the team staff and put them in stands at an English Premier League or Serie A match and then bring them home and see how rude they think slowly chanting the LFers name is.
I’ve never been stopped booing, although the guys screaming offensive stuff get jumped on quick. The Jays are really invested in children/family advertising for the park (which is smart) and doesn’t want guys on the thirdbase line screaming ‘Youk sucks c***!’ beside a four year old.
That being said, I’ve been able to scream a lot of invictative so long as I’m creative about it. A friend of mine with a perchant for the dramatic spent a good hour heckling the Yankees with Shakespearian insults. A couple times, you could see some of the players actually try and figure out where it was coming from.
I’ve seen some people stopped for various reasons, sometimes offensive sometimes not … which really bothers me.
Marketing to the family to me is a tough call. B/c I think, and no offense to the family wanting to come to the park for a nice ballgame, that if you market to the family too much (and I think the Jays do) you’re going to get an atmosphere for families … which isn’t what most sports fans want. I think with 81 games you have to market to multiple groups, but the main focus has to be the sports fan. The potential seasons seat holder who will come often, bleed for his team and curse out anyone who tells him otherwise. The Jays just don’t seem to have these kinds of fans the way the Leafs, Raptors and even TFC does.
that must have been a rare experience. Because I boo, and boo vociferously each and every game and no one has asked me to stop (except my seatmates maybe who say I am too loud).
I boo every check throw to first. I boo every bad call by the umps and I boo every good call by the umps that goes against the Jays – lol. And folks around boo as well. So, I find it odd that some usher asked you to stop booing, because it is prevalent at all games I go to.
by aagoodfella on Mar 26, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I have seen games in San Diego, Oakland and LA. They are all non-descript and have nothing over Rogers, IMHO.
SF is better than Rogers, IMHO, but it is a gem of a park.
Boston is a very cool park, but really, although it posseses great great great charm, I think I would not really want to see games there on a regular basis as there are plenty of visual obstructions etc.
Maybe Rogers does not have all these great charms as say Camden Yards but it is clean and efficient, easily accessible, offers the best modern amenities and game visibility is great. They have, IMHO, a good variety of foods (albeit expensive). If personality is that high on your list in evaluating a park, than sit on the 3rd base side during a night game and watch the free light show on the CN tower (one of the tallest free standing structures in the world). Personally, I am in no rush to see Rogers Center replaced.
by aagoodfella on Mar 26, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't actually mind the dome at all.
I like it a lot. But I do think it’s fair to say that it’s not a “sexy” stadium and that’s now. It’s sort of the last of the new stadia before the retro trend starting with Camden yards, and that makes it seem a little plain and outdated. I can’t see it housing Jays baseball for 25-30 more years.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don’t disagree with your points, but I think the economics factor more into whether or not the Jays will go for a new stadium than the ‘sexiness’ factor. It’s a fully paid for facility, wholly owned by the owners of the team, in good repair and possessing multi-event flexibility. And I think people do discount the dome itself too much. It is iconic, there’s the practicality of an all-weather stadium (especially when you’re looking at internal maintainance, and people still get excited at games when the dome is being opened or shut.
Yeah, it’s not a Comerica Park or a Camden Yards by any means, but I’m almost of the mind that it will be a good thing in a decade. It will be something unique in a few years, and I think that it’s effective enough as a baseball park that the Jays will play in it as long as they possibly can. What I personally expect is a fairly major renovation in the next ten years though. I think they’re going to link in with the next reno of the convention centre and CN Tower complex, and build up a shared sales complex encompassing all three structures.
trying to find life expectancy
here are some fun Rogers Centre facts
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Fame: World’s largest rectractable-roof stadium.- Height: 310ft.
- Volume: 56.5 million ft3.
- Rogers Centre has the world’s first fully retractable roof.
- It takes 20 minutes for the roof to fully open or close.
- Rogers Centre’s field can hold the equivalent of 516 African elephants, 8 Boeing 747s, or the Roman Colosseum.
- Rogers Centre’s playing field area is covered with 106 rolls of Astroturf, which is held together with 12.8km of zippers.
GPS coordinates: N43.641504,W79.389127
He won't be able to say anything
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
From my iphone app, boston game
Mccoy grounds out,
Emaus singles
Lind strikes out
Wells flies out
Boston, bottom of first
scutaro walks
Hall grounds into force
Lowell hit by pitch and removed from game
Youk flies out
Ortiz strikes out
Q: Why replace the turf?
A: Fewer seams, faster conversion
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
Chat's done
45 minutes? Not even a whole hour?
They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.
2nd inning
Ruiz pops out
EE strikes out
Buck strikes out
Red sox half:
Drew grounds out to cecil
Varitek singles on ground ball to EE
Hulett Grounds into force out
Reddick pops out
rays game
Blalock grounds out
Johnson called out on strikes
Bartlett hit by pitch
Crawford lines out to Reed
Rays game, bottom 2nd
Gathright out on bunt attempt
Bautista flies out to rf
Hill lines a single to rf
Hill steals 2nd
Reed walks
Philips on fire, doiubles home Hill
Lubanski pops out in foul territory
Red sox game top 3rd
Snider flies out to center
Mcdonald called out on strikes
McCoy singles on fly ball to center
Error on pick off, McCoy to 3rd
Inflied single for emaus, and McCoy scores
Lind flies out to left
And of interest, JP Arencibia replaces buck for bottom of 3rd, injury?
I can't get video or audio for these games either on my Itouch, just really good box score
summaries, but it doesn’t say if they were to the track or not
Bottom 3rd for Boston
Scutaro grounds out to 2nd
Hall flies out to center
Jimenez grounds out to Cecil
Reads like a good inning for Cecil
Sounds like he's just been getting better all Spring
hasn’t hit a wall like other pitchers I think?
Ball.
anyone worried about
Lind’s slow start? not much discussion so far
Rays top 3rd:
Kapler flies out to LF
Longoria singles to left
Upton homers to left
Shoppach grounds out to ss
Rodriquez grounds to short
Bottom 3
McDade strikes out swinging
Gonzalez singles on line drive to left
Chavez grounds into DP
Jay/Sox 4th
Wells grounds out to 3rd
Ruiz singles to center
EE grounds into force out
Arencibia lines out to 3rd
jays/sox, bottom 4
Youk called out on strikes, (I’m sure he freaked on the ump)
Ortiz flies out to left
Drew grounds out to second
Cecil making his case
Jays/Rays 4th
Blalock grounds out
Johnson strikes out swinging
sorry, Bartlett grounds out to marcum
Bottom 4th
Gathright flies out to left
Bautista grounds out to ss
Hill singles to right
Reed grounds out
Jays rays, top of 5th
Crawford grounds out to first
Kapler walks
Longria singles on a line drive to left
Upton doubles to left, runner scores
Shoppach doubles to left, Longoria scores
Rodriquez sigles to left
all Ive got for the 5th so far, Marcum getting lit up today
Jays/Sox 5th
Snider flies out to right
J Mac reaches on an error by scutaro
McCoy walks
Emaus singles on a line drive to left, Mac scores, McCoy to 3rd
Lind Grounds into a DP
Bottom 5th, Jays/Sox
Varitek strikes outs swinging
Hulett strikes out swinging
Reddick singles, line drive to right
Scutaro flies oiut to left
Cecil on a roll today, nice to see
back to 5th in tampa
now 9-4 sac fly by Shoppach
looks like Marcum's done, line for the day
5 IP, 9 H, 9 R, 2 BB, 2 K, 1 HBP, 2 HR, 93 (61).
No updates for Jays bottom of 5th in tampa, but no scoring plays, to start the 6th
register gives up a single to Bartlett and then walks Crawford
sounds like Cecil is done for the day
5.0IP, 2H, 1BB, 1HP, 4K 72 pitches
top 6th Jays/Bos
Wells k’s swinging
Ruiz singles to 3rd basemen and advances to 2nd on throwing error
EE walks
Arencibia into double play
Snider grounds out to third
bottom 6th Jays/Bos
Defensive subs
Aguuia to center, Goins 3rd, Calderone in rf and Marty McLeary pitching
Hall flies out to rf
Jimenez grounds out to 2nd
Youk flies out to right
top 7th, papelbon pitching
Mac singes, line drive to right
McCoy grounds into DP
Emaus walks
Lind singles to cneter on line drive
Aguila pops out to short
Botom 7th
Ortiz grounds out to 2nd
Drew strikes out swining
and that’s all I’ve got for that inning so far
Top of 8th, Okajima in
Ruiz pops out to 2nd
Goins infield single
Arencibia k’s swinging
Calderone k’s swining
good tweet from John Lott
" With 5R allowed in 2/3 IP, Scott Register may have taken himself right out of the rotation race … for Las Vegas"
bottom 8th in boston
Zach Jackson in for Jays
Hulett grounds out to first
Reddick grounds out to Jackson
Scutaro lines out to second
Jays scouting another international elite short stop
http://dplbaseball.com/
“According to Christian “El Niche” Batista a number of teams have been following the SS with strong interest (BOS, OAK, NYM, TOR, TEX COL). Batista says his player stands alone as the best SS available on the island this July 2nd; “He combines everything you want in a SS and does it easy; he has the tools, athletic ability, projection and determination the position demands , he also posses raw power that with age and development will be considered part off his offensive game”. Batista has voiced to various sources he’s looking for $3.5 million for the plus tools SS. After being hit by a pitch Marte is recovering from a small hand injury but he hasn’t lost sight of his goals. Batista says Marte will be ready to go in 7-10 days and will be placed on DPL roster soon after. For much of the DPL season Marte has been the team leader in every statistical category and among league leaders in H/2B, showing impressive hitting approach, fielding and running ability. Marte should be ready for the upcoming DPL showcase in efforts to get teams to further evaluate him as they wind down their selection process.
The DPL has recently written a brief summary of Luis Marte tools and abilities:
“Luis is 6’1 170lb, wiry athletic body with room to fill out frame. Luis is a true SS that will stick at the position as he developes. Clean solid fielder that does it effortlessly, avg to plus arm, running 6.6-6.7 60 yrd, solid avg range and athletic enough to make tough plays seem easy. He combines his solid defensive play with a solid offensive approach, hitting .286 with occosional power. Luis is considered by many scouts a top ss for july 2nd.”
top of 9th in boston, Ramirez pitching
Mac flies out to left
McCoy k’s swinging
Emaus flies out to left
ClintB, lol not you- sorry didn't mean to confuse
I just had to cry over the 3-2 loss to Boston in the 9th there ;)
by stratford_girl on Mar 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
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