I Can't Stand Up For Falling Down: 3/8 Preview and Thread, Jays at Astros
by hugo on Mar 8, 2010 12:20 PM EST
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The Jays, fresh off a win propelled by long balls by the triumvirate of Wells, Ruiz, and Bautista, take on the Houston Astros this afternoon in Kissimmee. Today's lineup, which looks to be a fun one:
Joey Gathright, LF
Lyle Overbay, 1B
Brad Emaus, 2B
Brett Wallace, DH
Jorge Padilla, CF
Travis Snider, RF
Johnny McDonald, SS
Pretty fun to see Snider, Wallace, Emaus, and Arencibia all in the same lineup, no? In light of our conversation yesterday, I find it very interesting to see how this lineup is constructed.
Making the start today for the Jays will be southpaw Ricky Romero, who is expected to throw three frames. Romero will be followed by, things permitting, some combination of fellow lefty Dana Eveland, Chad Jenkins, Zach Stewart, Merkin Valdez, Zechry Zinacola, and Willie Collazo (no way all of them get into the game, unless Romero and Eveland both fall flat on their faces.
In other news, Dustin McGowan is set to throw two simulated innings tomorrow, and Brett Cecil will work a bullpen session today and pitch in a "B" game on Wednesday.
According to mlb.com, there will be an audio feed of the game courtesy of Houston's announcers.
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Yeah, that's why I said "back up to"
Silly Tom. He’s just bouncing around at the bottom of the order, he might even hit 7th!
Ball.
it's interesting that he's behind the other guys
with no major-league time
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'm always wondering how
Cito decides which player needs the tough love and which one needs the ‘ok you get the job no matter what’. I mean, he may have good reasons, I’d be curious what they are.
Lind, he gets the team to call up as soon as he gets the manager job and say ’he’s in the lineup every day’. Snider, get the ‘has to earn his spot’.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it relates to Snider’s listening to instruction. He said they wanted him to adjust his swing last year and he refused. Snider said himself people tried to help him and he didn’t listen. If you were managing someone (baseball or otherwise) and they didn’t listen to your advice how would you react? It’s quite possible Cito is saying go ahead, prove you’re right kid. He’s playing him so he’s giving Travis a shot to prove him wrong, but he’s not exactly going to promote the idea that players shouldn’t listen to the manager. Agree with Cito or disagree, players need to open to suggestion from the coaches. That’s why they are there.
this and he’s probably hitting other guys higher b/c it doesn’t really matter where they hit b/c they have no chance to make the club. He’s likely just hitting Snider where he’s likely to hit to start the year. So I wouldn’t read as much into Wallace and JPs spots. Heck, Emaus is ahead of Wallace but he’s not exactly the bigger piece of the future there.
I could understand that for last year
But for the sound of things, he’s started to listen to his coaches this year, changing his stance and such. So why keep punishing him?
Ball.
Do we really need to see Eveland and Collazo pitch? We all know Cit has his mind made up anyways, lets just pitch Jenkins and Stewart for the heck of it and let Cito tell the others that he doesn’t like them anyways.
Eveland had a bad year last year
but is still pretty young and was good two years ago. I’d take him in the rotation over Tallet, to be honest.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
sure
I’m definitely not saying just hand him a rotation job. He has to show he can control the strike zone decently this spring, for one thing.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
turned 26 this offseason
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
these houston announcers
are completely disinterested in the game…
I am cautiously optimistic
the HRs are great but the real tell will be seeing how his approach holds up over a decent sample size. I don’t expect him to become a walk machine, but if he is more comfortable and seeing the ball better he may start making better contact and if he is able to pick up breaking pitches better it could make a big difference.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Oh wouldn't say that yet....
Jason Lane hit a bunch of homers last year. But I’d love JP to make the team. He needs to get established before D’arnaud gets up to Toronto.
I would think it all but impossible for JPA to crack the lineup from the start of the season. He likely has to prove he can sustain that kind of performance. At best, he can get on the Jays’ radar and if he keeps ripping for the next couple of months in AAA, then maybe he gets a mid-season call-up. But even if that happened, it would be a wonderful surprise for the Jays. This is all speculation of course.
I don't know that's it's impossible...
it isn’t like the Jays have Johnny Bench infront of him, but isn’t likely
I like the way the Houston announcers casually dismissed todays lineup as all non-starters, except maybe Overbay
Hope Snider was not listening.
Score?
How many HR’s has JoBa hit? Oh he’s not playing…that being said the way he’s playing he can go 3 for 4 from the bench.
"I've only been in love with a beer bottle and a mirror" - Sid Vicious.
by craig in calgary on Mar 8, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions
things are good....I think there are 7 or 8 that have said they'd like to do it
so could use a couple more but will have details by the end of the week
Romero really seems to be keeping the ball on the ground
have to like that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the hits he did give up
would be ground balls through a hole somewhere or broken bat bloop singles…
yes, I think that was the plan
and he hasn’t thrown too many pitches (27 according to Bastian)
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'd like to
I thought it worked out pretty good last year. but it all depends on whether I can find the time
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
You are doing the Jay write up for SB Nation right?
I saw something about it the other day and I couldn’t remember but thought you were doing that one.
I thought so
I think ours is due Wednesday. But I haven’t started it yet so if you have something to say, I don’t mind you doing it.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I should be okay, thanks
was planning on working on it tonight, unless my band is rehearsing
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
That's good...I've been procrastinating on thing lately.
I might get somewhat closer to where you are this summer, my boy is graduating and I was going to take him to Boston for a present.
nice!
it’s pretty nice there in the summer. My little girl wants to go there and see the public gardens because of “Make Way for Ducklings” – well, that and the Jonathan Richman song, haha.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
We were talking about going to Denver for a weekend series for the Jays
is a fairly cheap flight from here
would be great
Coors is one of the fields I haven’t been to yet
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
when is the series?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
the week after the due date
yeah, that probably won’t work out, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'm afraid not, haha
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I'm reminded of that at least once a day
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
august or september would be good
I travel quite a bit for work anyway, so going someplace for the weekend shouldn’t be a huge deal
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I turned up the volume on the computer because the game feed was so quiet
and then the commercial rattled the windows
It is tough to keep up....
is rare that the Houston guys let the get game get in the way of their broadcast
Sure was nice to have the Fan brodcast this weekend
Gerry and Alan actually cared about the game action
yea at the beginning before they cut us out
they were talking about their weekend plans and would occasionally mention who was up at bat
how observant of them
and completely random since they probably have no idea who else we have on our roster
i personally believe
that marcum should take it over romero if they perform equally well in spring training, based on marcum’s previous experience with the team
before his injury, he had a phenomenal season
and hes been with the team for a few more years…it would make more sense and maybe also take a little pressure off of romero
see and that would bother me more if
our starting catchers weren’t completely terrible. i mean honestly how much worse could he do then john buck and jose molina…
I have some hope for Buck
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
is that supposed to be encouraging?
rod was no offensive star…
I'd like to see Arencibia
play his way onto the major league team at some point during the season, though
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
haha Gus!
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
of course
the antecedent of that isn’t particularly encouraging
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah...oh well....
Maybe he needs a manager like Lind had that tells him he can do it and not worry, just go out there and play.
that's a J-Mac hit
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Dana gets a third inning too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
another quick inning for him
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
yeah
didn’t sound like any of the flies were hit very well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
when they traded for him, AA said he'd have a shot
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
hit for Dopirak
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Cooper singles too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Sierra loads them up
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
strikes out on 3 pitches
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
on the other hand
they’re getting on base
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Jenkins in
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
second at-bat was pretty sweet too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I think they might
he didn’t throw many pitches at all
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
scoreless inning for our first-rounder
though it sounded like the last guy hit it well
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Lubanski draws the 4-pitch walk
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I don't get when people
pretend that 3- and 4-syllable names are hard to pronounce just because they’re long. I mean, “Jeroloman”?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
who walks, btb
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Dopirak hits it hard
shortstop can’t handle it to load them, again
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
reminds me a bit of watching a game with Mrs. Hugo
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
my wife has a great memory for where players used to play....
that’s about all she notices about baseball
the Jays leave them drunk again
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
haha
I think he’ll start at least at Lansing, though, no?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
that would be my guess, too
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
supposedly he showed up
in good shape and has been throwing well. He could be a guy who could move very quickly through the minors
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I have been and remain ...
Over the top high on Jenkins – this kid is built like Clemens, throws like Halladay and will be paid for three years like he works at Tim Hortons!
not sure how he did in that game
supposedly he got the save
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
just like in this one
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I thought it was 3-2, but not sure
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I pretty much hate you
well, back to zappa, as we say (not Frank Zappa)
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Enough of this -
I’ve got to grab a bit of lunch.
Steak sandwich and scotch. Man – this retirement is more than I can take!
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