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Jays Lose to White Sox in Extras

White Sox 8 Blue Jays 7 (11 innings)

To start with the bad, Brian Tallet was bad. I'm not sure if he was over excited, pitching in the home opener or what but he seemed to be getting everything up and was very hittable. His arm was in front of his body all game it seemed. He did make 'eat' 6 innings, giving up 8 hits, 2 walks, 3 strikeouts, 2 homers and 6 earned. He was very lucky that either Jake Peavy was worse, or our offense was very good. Tallet left with a one run lead. He could have got the win. 

Shawn Camp pitched a good 1.1. Scott Downs got two outs. Then they trusted Jason Frasor to pitch the 9th, he gave up a solo homer to Mark Teahn to tie the and give Frasor his second blown save of the early season. That got Jeremy Accardo his first action of the season. He made it through one inning and that would have been a good moment to take him out of the game. Why Cito didn't I don't know. I would have thought it would have been a good moment to bring in our good luck charm, Casey Janssen and see if he could vulture his 4th win. In his second inning of work Accardo gave up a single, then a Mark Teahen (him again?) triple. After that Accardo got out of the inning but the Jays couldn't score in the bottom of the inning, despite a Randy Ruiz sighting (he ground out) and 2 walks.

Offensively, we got 7 runs (for the 3rd time in 7 games and I thought we'd have a hard time scoring runs). 7 runs should be enough to win. Vernon Wells hit his 5th homer of the year and John Buck hit his first (crushed it, into the fourth level) both 2 run shots. Adam Lind had 2 hits, a walk and 3 RBI, but then struck out with 2 on and 2 out in the 11th. Jose Bautista had a hit and 2 walks. Edwin Encarnacion had a hit and a walk. Lyle Overbay 2 walks. Travis Snider and John McDonald went 0 for. Travis did line a hard pitch right at the first baseman in the 4th and lined out to short to lead off the 11th.

Jays of the Day are  Camp (.153 WPA), Bautista (.104) and Buck (.102). Suckage Jays, well there are a few of them: Tallet (-.360 WPA), Frasor (-.191), Accardo (-.151), Snider (-.145) and McDonald (-.143).

Alex Rios had a good day, other than being booed every time he came into view, going 3 for 5. I have a feeling the booing him is counter productive. Might shock him into actually paying attention to the game that is going on. 

So now we are 5 and 2, both our losses have been by 1 run. We are still in first in the AL East. So not a fun loss but we'll get them tomorrow. 

I wasn't a fan of the idea of Tallet in the rotation but I wouldn't take one bad game as a sign he shouldn't be there, just like I wouldn't take his first good game as a sign he should. All our starters are going to have bad games at times. I don't cheer for Brian to do poorly. He's a Jay, I hope the best for all for of them and, well, I don't think a few bad starts will change Cito's mind about him being in the rotation. 

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Gregg threw nine freaking pitches in a day game, would've had no problem going today

Leave it to Cito to trust too much in a noticeably broken Frasor though.

by Opisgod on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

couldnt agree more

I said this before the first game even started that personally I have alot more faith in Gregg then I do in Frasor. We should be 7-0 right now if not for this guy. Hopefully Cito doesn’t get stubborn and realize Frasor never should have been the closer in the first place. i always think your best reliever should be your closer and Frasor is at best our third.

by spartansmike on Apr 13, 2010 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Uh Frasor is our closer and was rested

Why would Cito go with Gregg? If he brings Gregg in and he gives up the tying run what would everyone in Blue Jay land be saying?

I’ll be the first to admit Frasor hasn’t looked comfortable at all, but until Cito deigns a new closer for the role, we aren’t going to see anyone else but Frasor in a save situation unless he’s not rested enough.

We should win games when we score 7, if you’re looking for a scapegoat, our starter giving up 6 runs seems more fitting.

Small kudos to Accardo for getting out of the 2 and 3rd no out jam after the go ahead run came in. I know it didn’t mean anything in the end but I was still impressed.

by plen on Apr 13, 2010 3:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know why people keep expressing surprise at Frasor coming out in save situations – he’s the closer. Now maybe he won’t stay the closer, but the role’s not going to be taken away from him after a few games to a week. Let’s see what happens over the rest of the month anyway.

As for Accardo, why take him out after one inning? The games tied in extra innings and who knows how long it’s going to last, so you don’t want to be too quick to use up pitchers in case it turns into a marathon. Accardo ought to be good for a second inning of work.

by jabalong on Apr 13, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the few times I've said this about Cito...

…but I had no problem at all with his managing today. He said “Frasor, you’re the closer, you’re my guy”. Good. He left Accardo in to save the BP after Accardo hadn’t pitched in over a week. Good. He used Ruiz. Good.

It’s a 162 game season. Sometimes, the other team is just plain ol’ going to beat you.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah Im with you.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Apr 13, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although I will admit Camp coming out when he did to pitch the 7th and the start of the 8th surprised me but it all worked and he looked great so yeah.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Apr 13, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

We've been agreeing a lot recently...first fact or fiction, now Cito's strategy...

…I’ll have to think up something really off-the-wall to generate some controversy!!

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 13, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Millar should be #1 on the All Time Greatest Jays List!

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Apr 13, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would do it....haha.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 13, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and Sorry about the knights by the way. I didn’t see it by the box scores shows they got thumped good last night.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Apr 13, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s not talk about last night @ the JLC. Worst waste of $21.00 in a while.

Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.

by Jevant on Apr 13, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

How close to London are you? We will have to get together for a drink to watch a Jays game.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Apr 13, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Looking over the game, about the only thing I can criticize is that I would have pulled Tallet after five, when we were 6-4. The hitters were getting around the on the ball, there was a lot of well hit stuff to the outfield, he wasn’t getting the first pitch strike. The bullpen is deep enough, I start the sixth with Camp.

by dexfarkin on Apr 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i thought the jays bats looked pretty good and fielding looked good. Pitching was a little rough but kept the Jays in the game. It was not so bad for a loss.

by aagoodfella on Apr 13, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My first Cito rant

Why no Randy Ruiz vs Thornton instead of Overbay? Also, why no Mccoy pinch running for Bautista? Also, why no intentional walk to Carlos Quentin (even though it worked out in the end). Usually Im OK with Cito, but not last night.

by Natescavich on Apr 13, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

while we have a couple of blown saves....

we have also caused a couple. too soon in the season to take away the closer job. eventually i think these three might be best suited for closer-by-committee, but until then, Frasor is the closer and shoulsd be used as such.

by upstate jay fan on Apr 13, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

This game yet again proved to me why Brian Tallet should be in the bullpen and not starting, yet alone the #2 starter for this team. When will Rzepczynski return?

by Frag on Apr 13, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Cito Blows This One

Forget Frasor’s blown save, this game was lost when Gaston left Brian Tallet in to pitch the 6th inning. Frasor should never have been pitching with only a 1 run lead. We are going to lose plenty of games against the good teams, so we must beat them when we have a chance especially when we have their #1 starter on the ropes.

by wbruyea on Apr 13, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

The Offense lost its "clutch"ness as well

We didn’t get a single hit, let alone a run from the 7th inning on.

Ball.

by Casusby on Apr 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

To Be Fair

Thorton is a beast, and he was throwing gas.

by dexfarkin on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

All is not well in Jay land?
Lots of negativity on a 5-2 team.

Really the only problem is with Lyle Overbay being played every day. What is that 2 hits in 7 games?
And to leave him out there against that lefty was just criminal. By the way, who is that guy? Lefty with a 96 mph fastball with movement? Get that guy on our team!

All aboard the Vernon Wells Bandwagon!

by craig in calgary on Apr 13, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

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