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Late Game Thread, April 3, Jays and Astros

Sorry the thread is slow.

Ricky Romero's  Brandon Morrow last warm up before the season.

Line up:

Bautista, RF

Hill, 2B

Lind, DH

Wells, CF

Overbay, 1B

Encarnacion, 3B

Snider, LF,

Gonzalez, SS

Molina, C

Join in if you are around.

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Romero isn’t pitching today….

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Brandon Morrow is going today.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah No worries.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

pfffft I find that only leads to trouble.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? and no more talk of google friendly titles? :)

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know when they talk to Hugo he blames you right?

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but hugo will just laugh it off..

They have a point but then our numbers are like double last years, so they like us. We are finally an example of a site that’s doing well.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The quality of the commentators must have gone up over the past year and brought in new people Huh Huh Wink Wink Nudge Nudge know what I mean?

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

All kidding aside...

I think that’s the key. If the conversation is good, people will just come chat.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who has the most traffic? Athletics nation? I know they are a big one.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Cub site..

but then the MMA site gets more than anyone.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pffft I bet I can increase it more here.

MMA SUCKS! It isn’t a real sport!

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is sort of my opinion...

and I’m amazed that MMA fans can read.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bahhahahahaha

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know...

They announced this MMA site and I thought…no way, I mean I guess there is an appeal to the sport…even if the idea of two almost naked guys crawling on each other repulses me, but no one would want to read about it…..shows what I know.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh I joke, but I do enjoy MMA but that is mainly because I was heavily involved in Ju Jitsu right up until I was in University.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I am not sure there are many places where you chat about MMA so that probably helps.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is Women’s MMA.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think morrow is doing 1/2 the game and eveland the second half or sometnhing like that .

Isnt that the plan?

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to play there just because of that stupid hill in center field.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just noticed they have a pillar on that hill too

I know baseball stadium designers love their unique quirks, but come on. That’s just stupid.

"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."

by wroth91 on Apr 3, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, right

Still doesn’t make much sense.

If you need the flag in that specific spot, why not attach the pole to the wall and just have it jut out to the proper spot instead of putting it where a player can potentially hit it on the run?

"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."

by wroth91 on Apr 3, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you remember the ads with Roger Clemens

when he joined the Jays…had him throwing and the guy with the radar gun saying 145, 150….Roger’s ok…let’s start the season. “do you think we should tell him that’s metric?”

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha No I wish. that sounds awesome.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I just took a look as well. No luck

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky that didn’t bounce into the dugout.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Kaz is a tough at bat.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s only time before these guys learn to just walk against Morrow.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Let’s go Lunchbox! clap clap clapclapclap

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

look at my mine snider laying off that pitch

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa, Quick move to first.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Man nice at bat here from Gonzalez.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

travis barely held onto that bag

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Rough Slide from Snider…. Man…

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

probably need to practice that face first slide if you are going to do it

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt one of our guys break a finger or something doing that last year?

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

it just does not seem a natural move to me … versus foot first slide

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on rod....

arguably one of the best Jays this spring….can we not just make a statement?

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. Base clearing 2 out double. Nice job JoBau

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

And by double I meant triple.

yeah…..

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

/shrug

Scorers are a bit lazy in the Spring I imagine.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait what happened there?

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah I suppose so.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still its still early. 2 AB’s and 1 inning in hte field?

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I guess so.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

the wayJoBau is playing, he does not need much more Spring warm up

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s weird is that Bautista used to be a walk machine. Now he doesn’t strikeout and hits for power but he also doesn’t seem to walk.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Good effort by EE

Tough play. Rolen woulda had it though :P

"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."

by wroth91 on Apr 3, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

No matter how many times i hear it…. Tallet as the no 2 starter still feels wrong.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

that idea that he will eat inning is just stupid but oh well

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand a little better if it was to break up a Left Left or Right Right thing in the rotation… but it actually bunches them together…

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, I cannot believe that center field … first they have that incline which seem s like a great place to break your ankle and then they have that post INSIDE the fence which seems like a great place to get a concussion if not outright killed …. it seems like they might have sent the design back for re-work before breaking ground on that plan

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

glad we’re not in the NL. Though Yankee stadium is ridiculous in a whole different way.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they could put a motion detector alarm on that post which goes off if a player gets within ten feet or something … that thing looks like a real nasty nasty accident waiting to happen

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

and why they have the hill too, I would guess … but still, I mean, who would approve that design? makes one shake their head

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

based on an old baseball park...

just to give the park some charactor….the astrodome was boring.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dome is boring too…. but wouldn’t want to come close to a design like this

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Morrow walks these Astros who are spectacularly bad, the Sox, Yanks and Rays will have a happy time.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, he is not looking super

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morrow will get his fair share of walks and strikeouts.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lind missed that one.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh wow.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

VW with alittle english on that infield hit

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

That was an odd situation

Was a solid foot or so off the line… didn’t look like it had any spin to go either.

"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."

by wroth91 on Apr 3, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man o Man… Its the Keystone Cops!

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I know he was trying to see if it would go foul… but it still looked funny.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, what is the outlook for the Stros this year … right now not looking so good

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t help that Berkman is hurt

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for Norris being on such a bad team.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

RBI double for Overbay. 2nd and 3rd still with no out.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Though still no homers for Overbay.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I cannot get a feel for the strike zone here it seems really inconsistent.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

gameday has the calls as ranging from bad to horrible, imo.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 strike hit by Snider — nice

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

RBI Single for Snider and he takes the double on the error…. at least I think that is going to be scoring

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

What the heck is the point of an mlb.tv free preview

where they pick the games you get to watch?

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Apr 3, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

who can resist a free sample?

plus product awareness is a big part of the battle in marketing

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morrow was lucky this park is so deep to center field but otherwise he’s still showing some promise. Real test will be against the good teams though.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh sure as soon as McCoy is on TV where we can watch

he has bad at bats…last night his at bat was terrible

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hill with another hit.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

props to Cristina

we Jays fans appreciate the sacrifice you are making

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm today has been the day of Jays groundballs going for hits.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

and some errors...

but then big hits from Hill and Barajas….The Astros hits have all been rollers too.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously ugly game if you are an Astros fan

by aagoodfella on Apr 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it’s not as if they make up for it with fantastic hitting (or pitching)

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow I didn’t think that one would get out. Opposite field power from Edwin.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, EE!

I believeeeeee in EE!

Ball.

by Casusby on Apr 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

he unquestionably has power. But will he be a black hole at defense and OBP?

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

we shall see....

anyone that can hit the ball that far I’d give a chance to

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

>10% walks over the last 2 years

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Apr 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

does walk quite a bit...

doesn’t strike out as much as I thought either…

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is definitely a good game to encourage casual fans to watch more games

If I weren’t too plugged in to the Jays and the outlook for this season, watching them tag 11 runs in less than 4 innings would make me watch a bit more.

"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."

by wroth91 on Apr 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!1
PENNANT!!!!1
WORLD SERIES!!!
Woo!

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love hearing that from Alex.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Told Snider not to worry about day to day performance that he is up to play everyday so if he hads a bad day he doesn’t have to worry about being sent down.

And on the Cuban guy signing said he can’t comment as per his and company policy and he understands the net is abuzz with the information and hopes to have something to announce soon.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

first pitch splitter from Morrow

In my ’07 Prospect Handbook they said Brandon would lay off the splitter because of arm troubles it allegedly caused

by ayjackson on Apr 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

mlb gameday

changed their minds and called it a fastball….hmmmm

by ayjackson on Apr 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing fastball, slider, curve....

but I’m not perfect at picking out pitches

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlb gameday is obviously working out some kinks today

but they have his fastball at 91-93….I thought it was a bit harder than that

by ayjackson on Apr 3, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder how long he can stay off the DL, being a young Jays pitcher…

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

Smells like Victory

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright Im gonna have to take off. Family dinner to attend. Enjoy the rest of the game folks.

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by JohnnyG on Apr 3, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I say trade Cecil for this guy. He and Tallet might eat a lot of innings.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummmmm yeah....

we had him….he couldn’t make the national staff….

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morrow looks to be throwing nice and easy....

gets under the odd pitch but a very very nice outing…

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

nice, but i’m concerned he won’t eat enough innings. if Cito was GM i’m sure he would trade for Suppan and/or Livan Hernandez. Or maybe he’d sign Looper.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah was impressive..6 ks, 5 singles

3 walks but is ok if you don’t give up extra base hits.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he will give up xbase hits…he’s a flyballer pitching against power teams in the AL East.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

flyball pitcher vs. flyball hitter = success

flyball pitcher vs groundball hitter = line drives

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Apr 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how that works? More flyballs = more home runs, unless they’re low power guys, then it’s usually easy flyouts. Line drive rates don’t seem to be controllable by pitchers.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the second biggest platoon split after handedness

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Apr 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

By which I mean it's the second biggest platoon split overall

with handedness being the first, not that it’s two platoon splits behind handedness

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Apr 3, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you tend to get under the ball and the pitcher tends to make average hitters get under the ball

then you’ll either pop it up or miss entirely. Same with GB pitcher vs. GB hitter. If you ten to get on top of it and the pitcher makes you miss low, then you’re missing the top of the ball low, which means you square it up.

They're not just hitting home runs. They're doing the little things, like hitting doubles.

by Torgen on Apr 3, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

geeze enjoy the moment…was a good game…two hard hits in five innings is impressive.

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m enjoying it, but Eveland’s outings were more impressive. Morrow might have more potential though. I like the curve.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

goooo Eveland. i’m rooting for him to keep it up.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Still getting the grounders though.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Unrelated

I posted a fanshot as the Fisher Cats announced their roster today. If anyone would like to comment and give opinions it would be appreciated!

by NHfishercatsfan on Apr 3, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m still awed by Eveland’s high groundball and low walk ratios. Though this time he did face a pretty bad line-up. If only Cecil were in the rotation instead of Tallet, every one of our starters would be interesting to watch.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

he gave up some hard hit flies...

but everyone gets a bad outing in the spring….

by Tom Dakers on Apr 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed on both points.

by Woodman663 on Apr 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand how a rebuilding team is loyal to 32 year old swing-man who isn’t even close to league average and plays in the AL east deserves a job over 23 year old with the upside of 2-3 starter. Its befuddling.

by Ahmed Abukar on Apr 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you get line campaign from lineup? that’s an interesting typo.

by ayjackson on Apr 3, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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