Another Sunny Day and You're 30 Miles Away: Game 3 Roundup -- Blue Jays 3, Rangers 1
Hope everyone enjoyed today's game as much as I did. That really was a fun one, which the Jays pulled out on a strength of a big 9th inning rally.
On the Mound:
Ricky Romero was fantastic, pitching 7 innings of 1-run ball, striking out 4 and walking just 2 while generally pounding the lower 1/2 of the strike zone. He gave up 5 hits, two of which were doubles. As is critical for success in Arlington, he kept the ball down, recording 12 of his 16 batted ball outs on the ground. It was an impressive first start for Romero on the road against a tough lineup.
At the Bat:
The Jays couldn't muster much offense for the first 8 innings, managing just a baserunner per inning and striking out 9 times against converted lefty closer C.J. Wilson. Not saying that Wilson wasn't pitching well - he was definitely locating his pitches well, but the Jays helped him out by being overly aggressive at times. Travis Snider had a bit of a rough day at the plate, striking out 3 times in his four plate appearances. Snider seems like he is getting into good hitters' counts but then not converting on the fastballs that he knows are coming. It's way too early to worry, though.
In the Ninth, though, the Jays turned things around. Vernon Wells led off the inning with a booming home run, his fourth of the season. He also walked during the game. Vernon did strike out in a key situation a few innings earlier, but there's no doubt that his bat is generating drive and power that he just didn't have last season. It must feel great to be healthy and hitting so well right out of the gate - hope he rides the hot start into a nice year.
Lyle Overbay followed Wells with, get this, a triple. I liked this Bastian tweet:
Wells on Overbay's triple: "It was slow developing." Much laughter. Overbay: "Oh, you guys think that's funny?"
Pretty funny, yeah. Edwin Encarnacion hit a sacrifice fly to cash Overbay (Edwin had a good day at the plate, with a hit and walk in addition to the game-winning RBI). Alex Gonzalez followed up with a double and ultimately scored on a Mike McCoy single to center. The hit was actually McCoy's second big league hit (he singled to lead off the game) and boy it must've felt good. McCoy was playing for Aaron Hill, who was a scratch with a tight hammy. Adam Lind grounded out to leave them loaded in the ninth but that was all the Jays needed.
From the Pen:
Romero was great, but because of the Jays' inability to muster any runs for the first 88.8% of the game, the bullpen played a key role. Casey Janssen pitched the 8th and was great - he was locating his pitches well and struck out the side around a walk in which a couple of the pitches looked to be either strikes or very close. He got the win. Jason Frasor came in for the save and promptly allowed a leadoff walk but then settled down to finish the game without too much excitement.
In the Field:
The Jays expect strong catching when they send Jose Molina out behind the plate, but they didn't get it today. Molina, who certainly isn't known for his bat (and was awful at the plate today, striking out feebly in each of his three plate appearances), looked stiff and lackladasical behind the plate, allowing a couple of wild pitches (2 of Romero's, one of Janssen's) that he really should have been able to block get by him. Buck came in to catch after pinch-hitting and he wasn't any better, doing the same in the 9th after Frasor put the leadoff man on base.
Edwin Encarnacion had a nice heads-up play to nab Vlad Guerrero at second after Guerrero singled Michael Young from first to third. Jose Bautista looked a little slow in right field at times. Alex Gonzalez continues to be smooth at the 6-hole and McCoy did a nice job filling in for Hill.
All in all, a very exciting game for the Jays, and they conclude their opening road series by winning 2 of 3. That's about all you can ask for, though let's not forget that they easily could've taken all 3. The key in each game has been top-notch performances from the starters, so let's just hope that continues as the Jays head to Charm City for the weekend series. Few things better than the hop, skip, and jump it is for me to go over to Camden Yards to see the Jays take on the O's. Today's post title comes from the song "Come Saturday" by the Pains of Being Pure at Heart, since I'm hoping that it'll be another sunny day and yep, the Jays will be just 30 miles away.
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MVP! MVP! MVP!
All aboard the Vernon Wells Bandwagon!
by craig in calgary on Apr 8, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
It's been a terrific
beginning for the Jays (e.g., pitching, Wells, 2 out of 3 wins and the pending signing of Hechevarria). I hate to say it, but how much rope will Gaston give Snider before he ends up in Las Vegas?
I hope that does not happen this year. He would be DESTROYED!!!
"I knew when my career was over. In 1965, my baseball card came out with no picture."
— Bob Uecker
by syc on Apr 8, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's already showing signs of being DESTORYED
Just doesn’t look comfortable up there, missing very hittable pitches
Ball.
Don’t know if you saw it earlier but we were making light of the fact that Cito said Destroyed a couple of times in relation to pinch hitter/ putting someone in for defensive upgrade.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
Trevor's trying too hard.
He puts on himself too much pressure.
Much like Vernon did last year.
I hope he’ll be calmer when they get back home, as the same howling minority that booed Vernon last year is going to be all over him as well.
I’m quite sure Snider has the potential. I hope he has what it takes mentally.
Go Trevor!!!!!!!!!!!
(I love “Trevor”. Much better than “Moonraker”…)
Festina Lente
“It’s way too early to worry, though.”
I beg to differ, his swing is completely messed up and he can literally do nothing with the mistakes, he hasn’t even hit a foul with authority. He can lay off all the pitches out of the zone he wants to; and damn he is good at that, but when hitters realize the worst they can expect when they throw strikes is a bloop single, Snider won’t even be walking.
These things wont fix themselves. 3 games or not his swing has gotten progressively worse since 2008 and it needs help.
its 3 games
All aboard the Vernon Wells Bandwagon!
by craig in calgary on Apr 8, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Calm down people
You keep going about the “small sample size”. Most of the time, you’re right.
Nevertheless, repeating the “it’s 3 games” mantra, won’t change the reality, that these 3 games look just like Snider’s 2009 at the majors.
It’s not that I (and probably Opisgod) do not believe in Travis’ abilities. But maybe, just maybe, there’s a problem here. Maybe it’s Snider’s character, maybe it’s cito’s effect on him, maybe it’s major league pitchers, probably it’s some kind of a mental wall.
Instead of mobbing whoever says anything “out of line” about the “untouchables” (namely Hill, Snider and Lind), try to count to 5 before the hollerring starts.
Thanks,
…. 3, 4, 5… Now, you can start howling for my blood…
Festina Lente
I'm not worried, he's only 22. Right now most 22 year olds are still in the minors. I agree that he has problems getting around on the fastball
But I don’t think its anything that cant be fixed with experience and constant at bats everyday.
"I knew when my career was over. In 1965, my baseball card came out with no picture."
— Bob Uecker
by syc on Apr 8, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe his swing IS messed up but lets give it a few months. Then we can have this conversation.
"I knew when my career was over. In 1965, my baseball card came out with no picture."
— Bob Uecker
by syc on Apr 8, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm no reactionary idiot
But I can tell when someone has a very inconsistent swing and Snider is already as notorious as Rios was in that right. His patience is excellent, and he will walk for now, but hacking at pitches with a pitcher’s swing ruins every good pitch to hit and I wish the coaches would work on it like I thought they were doing in ST.
I agree with you about his swing. But I would rather see if his current approach works or not before we over haul his swing.
If he struggles massively then we can send him down and tinker with things there. We have alot of time to work with this kid still. Give him some time.
"I knew when my career was over. In 1965, my baseball card came out with no picture."
— Bob Uecker
by syc on Apr 8, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I have more of a problem with the ninnies who prefer to live in blissful ignorance of the situation
Because something is wrong with Snider, it’s been there all of last year and i’m not going to ignore it. Oddly enough after the game i’m listening to primetime sports and the first thing they talk about is his struggles, how he can’t do anything with good pitches, and that it’s not a new problem either. i’ll give him all the time in the world, but i’ll be damned if people are just going to brush his troubles off as nothing.
how many 21 year olds have you seen in the majors...
now how many have ‘struggled’ and had an OPS+ of 97?
That right start calling people names. That will help get them to see your side of things.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
the cool thing is....if you look back 2 years you saw the same complaints about Adam Lind....
He’d never become a player
how about Dustin Pedroia
he was complete trash when he first came up. 100 or so awful plate appearances in his age 22 season, then started out even worse in his age 23 season (.544 OPS in April). And of course plenty of Boston media was freaking out. Something clicked, he went on to win Rookie of the Year that year, and you know the rest.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
and at the time
everyone was completely ripping apart his swing
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
See this is just a horrible argument to have. There are two possible outcomes.
1) Snider starts to hit – You claim he made this adjustment that no one else can see and that you were right.
2) He continues to slump – You claim you were right because he hasn’t made any adjustment
So Im just going to say. I disagree that there is a need to worry at this moment in time. Snider is still widely considered around baseball to be a top notch power hitting prospect/young player. You can think it is time to panic and that is your right, just as it is mine to disagree with what your saying. Its all opinions anyhow.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
I don't know
same crippling self doubt, without the silly money, plus I don’t get to play baseball for a living.
on the other hand, I have to screw up a lot worse than a three strikeout day to get people bashing me in the paper
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Right….
/calls the London Free Press to cancel the ad he took out…..
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
Snider still looks a little rough out there, agreed, but I think he is improved from last year.
First, he seems to have refined the pitches he swings at. IMHO, he is not swing at outside stuff so much and is showing better discipline. He still seems to run after some higher stuff that he might let pass and even when the pitches are high but hittable, it also seems like he is not adjusting his swing - so he undercuts.
Second, he seems to lay off some good pitches that he should swing at. I will have to watch a bit more carefully, but I think when he gets ahead early in the count, he seems to take a bit more when, you could argue, he might want to be more aggressive since they have to pitch to him and he has room in the count.
He looked better in the spring than he has the first three games. I would like to see him focus on contact over power at this point and when he has mastered the former than the latter can become a priority. Of course, this is all, easier said than done.
the problem is
most guys who are in a slump look like their swing is completely messed up. No one is as good as they look when they’re hitting everything, and no one is as bad as they look when they’re struggling. So that’s why I say it’s too early to say, and therefore, too early to worry.
I agree Snider has significant adjustments to make – but that’s what becoming a major-league hitter is all about. Either he will make them or he won’t. I don’t expect this season to be a cakewalk for him, but I do expect him to show progress. Either way, he needs more than 3 games to say one way or the other.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
All i'm doing is taking the struggles as more than just a random blip
And that gets me labeled as some reactionary, when they have persisted for a long time now. It also happens to be the only difference in our train of thought, so why take a different criticism of Snider like a Cubs fan would?
no one called you a reactionary
or anything else, for that matter. I just disagree. Snider’s major-league equivalents from last season were very strong. Extremely strong, in fact, considering his age. In 2008 he had a solid season despite a few nagging injuries. At the major-league level last season, he didn’t light up the league but he did hit .351/.437 in 168 plate appearances after he was recalled, which is hardly awful for a 21-year old in the majors. If you want to make the argument that he hasn’t yet adjusted to the major league level, I agree, but that’s not the same thing as saying he has struggled for years. I’d argue that he hasn’t really gotten the opportunity to.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
He's adjusted, and I love his eyes, he doesn't swing at bad pitches
But when he gets the fastball in the middle of the zone he knows is coming, he looks much worse than he should. Swinging at pitches he also looks awkward as well. To me having no problems at approaching the at bat but failing to capitalize let alone get good contact on the ball when it is good to hit leaves little more than these 2 reasons for the troubles.
1. Lack of talent.
2. A problem with hitting mechanics.
We all know #1 is not the problem.
no doubt his mechanics have been somewhat off in 3 games thusfar this season
the question is whether or not it’s a long-term problem.
The bigger thing is that this is actually very encouraging. You can correct mechanics. It’s much, much harder to correct approach
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
could just be timing
seems to be in between fastball/breaking ball to me.
I think that's a big part of it, too
it’s not uncommon for some players to take some time at the beginning of the season to get their timing right
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Does Vernon seems slimmer?
Is it just me or does Vernon seems less bulky? I always thought that him being too bulky and muscular took away from his durability and athleticism. Hopefully, he continues to play well.
he said he didn't work out as hard this year.....
I’m not sure if slimmer but might not be as muscular. I don’t want to start guessing that he’s a better player because of anything yet, because anyone can be hot for three games, I am hoping that his wrist is pain free.
incidentally, I really have to get off the road (well, trail) for a while
my ankle has been killing me recently – I think I might have a stress fracture
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
I was in a running group and the leader was a little running crazy
but he figured 3 months off a year was very important.
interesting
I haven’t had even a week off since high school, other than a couple of times over the years I’ve gotten hurt playing soccer or hockey
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
interesting — I overheard this big guy at the gym the other day telling some other dude that he takes 3 mos a year off
personally, I do not subscribe to that theory but I find it fascinating that such different folks hold this same view ….
it is interesting
but I could never do it. I can’t even take 3 days in a row off from running without going somewhat crazy.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
It's a semi-legit idea once you are in "elite" class
Once you get to plateaus and start requiring more and more exotic exercises to get any sort of adaptation in the muscles, if you take the three months off, you can go back to some of the older exercises to form adaptation again.
Then again, most people don’t actually need those exotic exercises (7 chest exercises? Not necessary for most gym goers)
"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."
have u heard of....
vibram five fingers? look it up.
it’s time we get back to our natural roots of running barefoot! we were designed to be mobile after all
yes, but probably not designed to run on concrete — LOL
personally, I find shoes can make a huge difference. I have had periods where I experience knee pain, so I replace my old running shoes with new ones and instantly, the pain goes away. Good shoes are worth it.
Actually, the idea is that you can
They encourage you to move away from heel-strike running and towards “POSE” style running, where the muscles and ligaments of the foot support the foot-fall. In that situation, they’re just fine. The only issue is if you’re landing on lots of pebbles – then it tickles a bit.
Though, without practice and a few errors, it’s hard to learn that – I haven’t yet.
Personally, I love my VFFs, I use them as lifting shoes (no squish in the heels, so it’s a stable base) and when I’m wandering around in my orchard/at home.
"Don't tell me it's impossible. Be honest and tell me you can't do it. Tell me you don't know how."
I ask this because I though his body type that he had the last couple of years (I thought he was gaining a lot of bulk in his upper and lower body) didn’t really suit the type of player that he is (a player that should be going for contact and speed). Having a big body that he had would work if he was a corner infielder or outfielder but not a center fielder. Also, the unnecessary strength that he put on may not be recommended for his predisposed body type. That may be the reason why he always had those nagging hamstring injuries ie too much pull, not enough ability for the muscle or tendon to adjust.
Fan590 replay on web?
Can anyone give me a link to where on the Fan590 site I can find the replays of Jays games?
It was mentioned here in Wednesday’s game thread and I see a note about “FAN replay on web” on the Fan590’s schedule (ie, where it says the live broadcast), but can’t find the actual link on the site to listen to the replay. Thanks!
Oh Crap.
Sorry Jabalong, apparently its just a highlight recap along with Wilner’s game recap
http://www.fan590.com/media.jsp?content=20100408_182146_9088
If you look on the right hand side under todays schedule, It says Fan Replay on net. I always thought that was a full replay… but I can’t seem to find it anywhere.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
The Jays
are 2-1 and could easily be 3-0. Nice start. Romero was awesome!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Apr 9, 2010 3:14 AM EDT reply actions

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