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Alex Anthopoulos Press Conference

The Jays had a phone conference with Alex Anthopoulos, to talk about the two releases today, for the media. If you stood a long ways back and squinted we might look like part of the media.

Alex was ask what changed for Edwin Encarnacion in the last day to change it from him being sent to the minors to him being DFAed. Alex said nothing had changed, they just needed a spot on the 40-man roster for Scott Richmond. They made the determination that EE likely wouldn't be claimed off waivers. They still expect him to end up at Vegas. They are willing to risk him being claimed but don't figure it will happen. The team is "confident he will clear". I would think there are other names on the 40-man roster that the team could expect to clear waivers too, but they decided they could risk Edwin. 

Alex talked to Edwin's agent about it all. Edwin is apparently ok with it all and plans to go down, work hard and get recalled at some point. This was not done at the request of the player. 

Richmond is starting tonight at Dunedin, will make a start at New Hampshire nest. He is doing well, is throwing up to 89 MPH and the team expects that number to improve.

As for Dustin McGowan, the surgery is to improve his range of motion. His MRI showed nothing else wrong but they will know more after they look in. They don't have a time line on him throwing again but don't expect to see him on a mound until next season. The surgery is "not bad news and not good news".

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Dunedin’s game has been postponed, looks like Richmond will have to wait another day.

In other news, Carlos Perez hit a grand slam for Auburn.

by Woodman663 on Jun 21, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

while I appreciate AA’s judiciousness, isn’t it a bit inconsistent to sound upbeat about EE’s prospects going forward but also so confident that no one will claim him?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jun 21, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Contract

I think EE’s contract is why AA doesn’t think he’ll be claimed. And if he is, that a nice little chunk of change off the books too.

by Guertez on Jun 21, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think AA wants someone to claim him to save a few mil, but it would be unclassy to say so publicly.

If I remember correctly, a key part of the Rolen deal was to take EE off the Reds’ hands. In other words, they may not have done a Stewart/Roenicke deal. They wanted to get rid of EE, as his bad defense and inconsistent bat, not to mention his health problems.

I’m glad to see him sent down. If anything, the fact that he doesn’t run out groundballs is enough to be sent down. It’ll be nice to see a new fact at 3B. I wish it was Emaus though. This would be an opportunity to bring up Emaus and let him play full time until Snider is back.

by REMO on Jun 21, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emaus isn’t on the 40 man which is probably the main problem.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, i see

Ah well, Hoffpauir is deserving. Looking forward to seeing him too.

by REMO on Jun 21, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Jays are already stuck with his cost, and EE has shown moments of being not just an adequete but also a good MLB level player. However, if you were another team, would you risk over 4mil on a gamble that he’ll put it all together?

So I don’t see it as being a conflict. On one head, he’s got the tools. On the other hand, no one is willing to risk what we’re on the hook already for to find out.

by dexfarkin on Jun 22, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who would claim E5?

AA’s right. Who would claim E5? If some team did, that’s a load off of the Jays’ hands money-wise. Like Alex Rios last year.

by bleh on Jun 21, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad example

Rios is killing it this year.

I'm on a horse.

by craig in calgary on Jun 21, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good move

I’m okay with DFA’ing Encarnacion, as there’s not much downside. If someone does claim him, then we save a chunk of change on the rest of his contract, without a big loss. While he has potential, from what we’ve seen of him so far this year he’s replaceable with what we’ve got and he hasn’t really done anything to give us much trade value. But let’s see what happens, maybe this will turn into an Eveland-type trade with a prospect coming back, or maybe he makes it through like AA says and we keep him.

by jabalong on Jun 22, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good analysis of this from Richard Griffin in my opinion.

by jabalong on Jun 22, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

seee yaaaaaaaaa

jays looking great next year with all this payroll coming off the books. I hope he stays true to his word and trades them all and bring in hitters as we have so much pitching coming up. He is showcasing all of this talent. richmond will be traded,along with tallet,frasor,downs and marcum..yes marcum along with overbay and mr buck. Get the best prospect from each team and seeeeeeeeee yaaaaaaa. Only way to beat the yanks and boston now tampa. His words..WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEM ALL ALONG AT THE SAME TIME..GREAT TEAM 2 YEARS FROM NOW

by anthony bell on Jun 21, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

AJ Burnett getting shelacked by the D-Backs

You’d think after E5’s huge series in Arizona, they’d take a good look at him?!?

I'm on a horse.

by craig in calgary on Jun 21, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Unreal

This team has John MacDonald, Jarrett Hoffpauir and NICK GREEN on the ACTIVE roster, let alone 40 man, and they decided to DFA EE?

Giving up on a guy with obvious talent who has been supremely and otherworldly unlucky this year for (at best) a B- prospect AND eating the salary seems absolutely incredible to me.

There is a reason that EE has been a major league starting 3B for a number of years and Hoffpauir, Green and heck even Bautista haven’t been. EE is also younger than all of them. Before everyone starts anointing Hoffpauir, Green, Emaus, et. al., let’s just take a step back and realize that the Jays are essentially giving away (assuming someone claims him and gives minor compensation back) an asset that is more valuable than at least 3 of the infielders they have on the roster (MacDonald, Hoffpauir, Green). Absolutely ridiculous.

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

by Jevant on Jun 22, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

No, what is ridiculous is the fact that you can’t see that E5 is lazy and unmotivated and when he gets in a slump, he barely wants to play.

by Jeremywilhelm on Jun 22, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t necessarily disagree…. but I really don’t like when people call players Lazy and unmotivated…. It may appear that way watching a play unfold on the field but you don’t know how they are working off the field or during practice.

It would be one thing to say hes been lazy if you know he isn’t showing up to workout or practice as much as the next guy but none of us have that sort of access.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 22, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s been obscenely unlucky this year. It’s frustrating when that happens. Heck, I hit 4 line drives right at infielders a few nights ago playing slo-pitch. THAT’S frustrating. Now imagine you are constantly getting ripped in the media daily and you have had the worst luck possible.

By all accounts, EE has been a stand up guy. Even AA said so.

How are you saying EE is lazy and unmotivated?? And on what basis do you say “when he gets in a slump he barely wants to play?” Have you spoken with him about this?

And…I see JohnnyG has just stolen alot of what I said here, but I think this is offbase. And nobody seems to be explaining to me how having Nick Green AND Johnny Mac AND Jarrett Hoffpauir AND Alex Gonzalez on the same ACTIVE ROSTER (let alone 40 man) is better than having a 27 year old 3B (at a position where the Jays have no depth) who has been a starting 3B for 4 years.

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

by Jevant on Jun 22, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He had the same wrap in Cincinnati

it always seemed unfair.

Cincinnati Reds-Rebuilding since 2001...

by justin007000 on Jun 22, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Hey Hey wait a minute…. I stole it? Listen here buddy I posted first. You stole :P

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 22, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Well, as I was typing that up, your comment popped up. So rather than delete everything I wrote, I decided to reference your post as well.

Good point though. Yours is above mine on the page. Full credit to JohnnyG for my ideas. :)

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

by Jevant on Jun 22, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right good… hey wait a minute….

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 22, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t necessarily call him more valuable, Higher upside yes, but valuable to me involves a cost benefit analysis and right now he is definitely not performing to par.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 22, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but

If the Jays are eating the cost regardless (which I expect – as does all the experts – they would have to do to get anything back for him), why keep Green, Hoff, Mac AND A-Gon over him? All on the ACTIVE roster no less, not just the 40 man.

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

by Jevant on Jun 22, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally I don’t buy the crap that this wasn’t asked for.

I would put money on EE asking for this after consulting his agent.

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 22, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps true

But I would never have sent him down in the first place. 120 AB, 9 HR? Really? Instead, we’d prefer to active roster all 4 of those weak middle INF options?

I hope he latches on somewhere else (and would be absolutely shocked if he doesn’t), and I have a feeling that this will be one of the worst decisions AA has made to date.

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

by Jevant on Jun 22, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really I am just surprised they are doing this now. I would have expected it when Snider came back but not now

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 22, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe Hoffpauir finally put it all together and the Jays think he will be the better player for them in the long run.

by Jeremywilhelm on Jun 22, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe

Again, that doesn’t explain the need to delete EE from the 40 man. Not to mention Nick Green. And Johnny Mac.

But regardless, if that’s what the Jays are thinking, my opinion is that is a mistake. For the reasons I have identified at several points throughout here.

Gotta play 'em, might as well win 'em.

by Jevant on Jun 22, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

maybe they are trying to get another bat in the lineup that can hit above 220.

by upstate jay fan on Jun 22, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

maybes and whatifs

Maybe a trade involving Overbay and a shortstop are being heavily discussed and they feel they need another shortstop and they feel they can not play EE at 3rd without Overbay at first.

by leonard euler on Jun 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if we aren't all reading too much into things...

I’m thinking that perhaps the Jays figure that EE needs to go down to AAA to heal a bit and return to hitting the ball.

The DFA was to get him off the roster to put Richmond back on it, which they are obliged to do because his stay on the 60 day list was coming to a finish. EE was chosen for the removal because he is struggling at the bat and still has $4 million owing so it’s likely he will pass through waivers. He also still had an option left.

Green could have been the guy to go but perhaps he’s this year’s Millucmencherson to keep Cito happy. Besides, you can never have enough light-hitting shortstops on your bench.

Hoffpauir is EE’s replacement on the roster and on the field.

Maybe that’s all there is to these moves. Or maybe not.

by siggian on Jun 22, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm inclined to agree mostly

Either this is the start of something larger, or really, EE makes the most sense to send down, was almost certain to clear waivers (and if he didn’t, the Jays wouldn’t mind seeing him leave town), and opens up a spot for Richmond. Hoffpauir is a chance to look at a hot bat right now, and Green… he still kind of puzzles me. Defensive depth? I don’t know.

by dexfarkin on Jun 22, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Chad Jenkins has been promoted to Dunedin

He’s been pulled from the MWL all-star game due to promotion. Finally get to see him away from Lansing’s less than stellar infield.

by TtD on Jun 22, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

well earned

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Jun 22, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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