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Jays at the 1/3 Mark. Report Cards: The Pitchers.

To this point in the season we have allowed 4.35 runs per game, putting us in the middle of the pack. We lead the league in strikeouts with 421 and strikeouts per 9 with 7.7. We're in the middle of the league in walks with 3.6/ 9. Also tied for the lead in saves with 17 and best in the league in home runs allowed, only 0.7 per 9. I guess it helps that we don't have to face our own batters. 


Shaun Marcum...Grade A...He's had an amazing comeback year, he hasn't allowed more than 4 earned runs in a start and hasn't thrown less than 5 innings in any start. It has been a nice reminder of why I liked him so much. I'd like Cito to treat him gently, he's thrown over 100 pitches every start since his first 2 of the season, though his last start was the first time he threw more than 110.

Ricky Romero....Grade A...He has had a couple of bad starts but he also has our 2 complete games. After an off-season where his ability was debated almost daily around here, it is great to see how good he's been. I don't expect he'll finish the season with the 3.14 ERA he has at the moment, but I can't see why he won't continue to be good. You have to like a pitcher that strikes out more than a batter an inning and has almost a 3 to 1 ground ball to fly ball ratio.

Brandon Morrow...Grade D+...He's had some good starts and some awful starts. He is at 4-4 at the moment and 50/50 is about his ratio of good to bad starts. The coaches talk about how teachable he is, which is a good sign for the future. 

Brett Cecil....Grade B+...He had one really bad start against Texas, but other than that he's been as good as anyone. The most walks he has given up in a start is 3 and he only did that once and he is pitching us deep into games. Couldn't ask for anything more from a 23 year old.

Dana Eveland...Gone...Did give us 4 good starts.

Shawn Camp...Grade A...He has only given up runs in 4 of his appearances. If it wasn't for the bad outing against Boston his ERA would be even better than the 2.48 it is now. Seems to have moved out of that long relief role that Cito had him in last year. Hasn't gone more than 2 innings this year.

Scott Downs...Grade B-....Had a great May after a poor April. Did give up the grand slam the other day but was in a tough spot, going in with the bases loaded and had to throw strikes. Last year he had reverse platoon splits, but not so far this year, but always has been good against RHB, so I've never really liked seeing him used as a one out lefty. 

Kevin Gregg....Grade C....Started off the season amazing, only gave up 1 run in April. Still has only blown 3 saves while picking up 14, so hasn't been all bad but he really doesn't calm the savage breast of us fans when he comes into a game. 

Jason Frasor...Grade C...Had a tough time in April then was nearly perfect in May. Trying to get Cito's confidence again. 

Brian Tallet...Incomplete...But if he can pitch like he did last start.....

Casey Janssen...Grade C...Started the season well, then hit a rough patch the end of April, then was great again through May. Has pitched 3 innings once but never more than 1.2 other than that one time.

Rommie Lewis...Grade B-...Has pitched 3 and 3.2 innings. Has looked quite good for the most part, with 2 or 3 bad showings. 

Josh Roenicke...Incomplete...We had the argument, this summer, over whether Josh was a prospect or a finished product. Right now I'm unsure if he is either. 

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I won’t sleep tonight until I know your assessment of Merkin Valdez…

by brewerm on Jun 4, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with Gregg's "C" grade.

However it sure feels alot worse than it was.
April he was outstanding. I was going through his gamelog and the last game in April he had 1IP, 0H 0BB and 3K’s.
Then the calender turned and he started walking guys and getting into trouble.

I realize I'm late to the party but...I'm on Twitter.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jun 4, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem with Gregg is...

That he doesn’t inspire that “Oh, the 9th inning is just a formality” feeling that the great closers do.

I think the C grade is perfectly fair. I suspect that Gregg is at best an average closer. Better than some and worse than others. I’d like to see if the Jays can get one of those great closers. You know, the ones that-allow-you-to-turn-off-the-TV-at-the-end-of-the-8th-secure-in-the-knowledge-that-the-Jay’s-lead-will-be-preserved-and-you-can-get-an-extra-15-20-minutes-of-sleep kind.

I kind of miss the BJ Ryan experience (well, the first year anyway). Gregg may or may not have better stuff, but Ryan projected this “you are not beating me” attitude that more than made up for his stuff. I just don’t get that kind of vibe off of Gregg.

by siggian on Jun 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The (real) problem with Gregg is...

When the rubber meets the road and he ‘s in a jam – he doesn’t have a + fastball that he can groove for a strike and overpower a hitter. He’s an OK closer – I suspect an above average 7th or 8th inning guy – but he’s just a half a bubble off plump as an elite closer – pity.

by Mylegacy on Jun 4, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say he is more than a half a bubble off plump

I would say he is 5mph and about 6 inches in location bubblin off plump :)

by Joey P on Jun 4, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm

His fastball is pretty deadly. May not use it correctly, but he throws hard. everything else I agree with.

by Rhinos on Jun 5, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bastian Thwipdupulates:
Cito said Jays will stick w/ 5-man rotation, even with off-days this month. Tallet in rotation to stay… at least til Litsch deemed ready

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Cito would prefer to give Gregg another day off tonight vs. Yankees, but the Jays closer is available out of the bullpen if needed.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I realize I'm late to the party but...I'm on Twitter.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jun 4, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

You ruin things that I am putting in the game thread again and Ill beat ya with a stick!

Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...

by JohnnyG on Jun 4, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Litsch is ready

But I don’t want Tallet either.

Does anyone know McGowan’s status. Oh how I wish Dustin could pitch.

by Rhinos on Jun 5, 2010 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why not Tallet?

He had a solid outing last time and the other contenders in AAA seem to have gone shaky.

Tallet’s a pretty good option until one of the key kids on the farm shows some form.

by jabalong on Jun 5, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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