Jays lose a pitchers duel.
by Tom Dakers on Sep 1, 2010 11:04 PM EDT
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PrintTough loss. Vernon gave us a shot at tying it in the 9th. After Jose Baustista ground out right down the third base line, (stupid Rays guarding the line with a one run lead) Vernon hit one over Upton's head in center and ran hard all the way to third, even if Buck Martinez told us he was stopping at second. But Rafael Soriano is pretty good. He struck out Adam Lind and John Buck hit a high fly to the track. In the opposite order, we would have been in business.
Shaun Marcum pitched a good 6 innings giving up 5 hits, 2 walks, 1 earned and striking out 7. The one run was a Sean Rodriguez home run. It looked like he was battling a stiff neck for the last couple of innings.
Shawn Camp (three Shawns in the game and each spells it different) pitched a good 7th but gave up a one out walk in the 8th. Scott Downs came in and got two straight ground balls but both missed fielders and the Rays got the go ahead run. He got out of the rest of the inning without giving up another run but then it was too late. Sad thing when you get the ground balls but not the outs. I'm almost sure if Yunel Escobar was playing he would have made a play on at least one of those two balls.
The Jays couldn't do much against David Price. just 4 hits in 8 innings. John Buck got us our run on a solo homer. We had 5 hits total. 2 for Mike McCoy. One each for Buck (homer), Vernon (triple) and Bautista (double). 0 fors for everyone else. John McDonald walked, stole second but was caught trying to take third. I hate guys getting caught stealing third. Oh well.
Jays of the Day are Marcum (.222 WPA) and Wells (.134). Camp McCoy and Buck deserve honorable mention. As well as the homer, Buck throw out Carl Crawford and Jason Bartlett trying to steal. One throwing from his knees. For Suckage we have Lind (-.273), Downs (-.217) and Mac (-.131).
I'm sorry that Lyle Overbay is hurting but I am enjoying watching Adam Lind play first. He made a really nice pick on a Aaron Hill throw.
We have an off day tomorrow and then 3 game at Yankee Stadium.
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Not game related but...
The Toronto Raptors broadcast sched was announced today, and 24 games are on Sportsnet1.
The Raptors blogs all just exploded.
There She Gooooooes!
They should have been paying closer attention
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2010/07/30/sportsnet_one_raptors/
That story was posted at the end of July and it said that at a minimum 23 of the 35 games that RSN were getting were to be on Sportsnet One.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
F**K SPORTSNET 1
When I first heard about it I thought to myself “oh no worries, just another tsn 2” but boy was I wrong. When TSN is showing Leafs games they make sure it’s on TSN not TSN2. The same can’t be said for Sportsnet1 and Jays games. I have digital cable with Bell so in order to view Jays/Raptors games I must first switch cable providers. That is too much of a hassle just to watch a Raptors team that might not even win 30 games. I’m pretty sure most people that have Bell cable feel the same way.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 2, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He went 0-3 today. The good news is that he was catching Marcum and helped him pitch a great game!
http://prolineexperts.webs.com
by Schenn4captain on Sep 2, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions
FAIL
I guess I misread the boxscore. I was surprised because normally when JPA gets the start at catcher, our pitchers allow at least 7 runs. Don’t blame me, blame sportsnet1. lol
by Schenn4captain on Sep 2, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
"Normally"
Doesn’t that equal like 5 games?
I really don’t like the comment about JPA’s catching ERA, or how the pitchers apparently suck when they are throwing to him. Even if it’s a joke. I don’t find it funny.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Sorry if that offended you for whatever reason but you should look into it. Don’t take this the wrong way because I really like JPA however when he is catching for us our pitchers tend to have a bad game. Sure it is a small sample size but does me stating that fact make JPA less of a player? No. If you can’t handle a person criticizing a player then maybe you shouldn’t read the comment section of the posts. I am just giving my own opinion on JPA. And in my opinion when JPA is catching for the Jays (yeah I know, small sample size) our starting pitchers pitch bad games.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not “offended”. I just think it’s a ridiculous comment.
Of course I can handle people criticizing a player. You just have to provide a reasonable basis for it. Which you haven’t at a;;. Saying the Jays pitchers have sucked in the few games JPA has caught means nothing. And the fact our AAA rotation is crap is because it’s the PCL and the pitchers are by and large crap.
I haven’t seen a bit of evidence that JPA has any impact on where the pitchers throw the ball, and by all accounts his work behind the plate has been improving.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
if you are going to make judgements on a guy after 5 starts....
then you ought to learn something about baseball.
"Yes, Normally"
Las Vegas 51’s starting rotation stats
Lance Broadway 137ip 7.88ERA
Brad Mills 106ip 4.99ERA
Marty McLeary 99.2ip 7.31ERA
Robert Ray 93ip 5.03ERA
Reidier Gonzalez 82.1ip 9.18ERA
It’s not just in the Majors that his catcher ERA is high. I don’t know if it is JPA that has something to do with this or if the Las Vegas pitchers just suck but I’m just giving my 2 cents. I’m sorry if you didn’t find it funny.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 2, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know if it is JPA that has something to do with this or if the Las Vegas pitchers just suck but I’m just giving my 2 cents
Vegas is a hitters park (park factor of 1.06 over the past 3 years compared to other PCL teams), in a notorious hitters league.
Plus, who of those pitchers that you listed does anyone ever expect to be an above replacement level pitcher in the majors? MAYBE Brad Mills. Maybe.
Arencibia doesn’t throw the pitches…
Yeah,
Small sample size. Let’s give him the rest of the year and next before we criticize him about that.
And you can’t compare the Vegas pitchers. As said above, pitchers park (check out our inflated hitting stats) and the pitchers mentioned aren’t really that good. I am not sold on Mills the way others are.
Oh for the love of....
Yes Vegas pitchers have high ERAs, they pitch in the PCL…..Thinking that JP causes high ERA is a huge leap of logic.
This is beyond ridiculous..
Travis Snider
Why didn’t he get the start? He is our best young player on the team and Cito makes him sit his ass down everyday. How can he develop if all Cito makes him do is sit and watch!
I agree normally
David Price was pitching. Very tough lefty…I am fine if he sits in games like that. But I agree that Snider has been sitting too much.
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