Jays hit 3 home runs and none of them by Jose Bautista. Jays beat Yankees.
by Tom Dakers on Sep 5, 2010 4:56 PM EDT
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PrintA very nice way to end the the series. A nice start by Brett Cecil. He went 6.1 giving up 7 hits, 4 walks, 3 earned, 3 k. It seemed like anytime he got in trouble he made the pitches he needed. He had 12 ground outs and just 3 fly outs. He has been really good the last couple of months.
Our pen pitched the last 2.2 innings without giving up a run. Josh Roenicke, Jesse Carlson and Kevin Gregg all did well. Casey Janssen gave up a hit and a walk, while just getting 1 out, a strike out. Cito, with extra arms in the pen, took him out quick. Roenicke pitched a good inning. Nice to see him back with the team.
We also got some offense. 11 hits on the day. Vernon Wells, Aaron Hill and John Buck each hit homers. Vernon and Buck each hit them to dead center, big time shots. Hill and Travis Snider (two doubles) had 3 hits each. DeWayne Wise had 2. Everyone else had one except for Bautista, Overbay and McDonald. Aaron Hill also made a nifty slide into second a his hit to the wall in the first. The ball beat him to the bag but he was able to avoid the tag. That allowed Vernon to come up in the inning and get the two run homer to start us off right.
Jays of the Day are Cecil (.186 WPA), Hill (.168) and Wells (.165). Roenicke and Snider deserve honorable mention. No Suckage Jays today.
Aaron Hill came out of the game in the 9th, limping a little. He has a sore knee and will likely miss tomorrow's game. It would be too bad if he had to miss some games now that he is starting to hit.
We start a 4 game series with the Texas Rangers tomorrow, in Toronto. Tommy Hunter (12-2, 3.64) gets the start for the Rangers. Ricky Romero (11-8, 3.60) for the Jays. It is another afternoon game and it is on the normal Sportsnet channels.
It is always nice to beat the Yankees
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I hate to put a damper on the joy, but I have some bad news...
We were 1 for 8 with RISP. That one was Wells’ homer in the first with Hill on second.
I'm thinking that when the Leafs win the Cup, I'll lose my drinking problem.
the most depressing thing about that stat
is the thought that someone might think it means something
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Sep 5, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All stats mean something
we just have to be careful how we interpret and apply them.
Stat that means something
Since June 28, all but one of Cecil’s starts have been quality starts. He is a year young than Romero and 2 years younger than Morrow. I’m real excited to see what he brings next year for us.
I just don’t get why he doesn’t get much respect. I don’t really hear anything bad about him, but I also don’t hear a lot of raves about him. Once and a while I hear someone say he would be good in our bullpen. I don’t know why someone would give up on a starter so early. I guess Marcum, Romero, and Morrow stole the show a little bit, but it baffles me how Cecil has been in the shadows all year.
Odd how the Schedual works out
But how have we, after 15 games vs the Yankees, completely dodged the CC bullet?
There She Gooooooes!
Surprises me how similar our 1-4 guys are
Romero 11-8, 3.60 ERA, 180.0 IP, 1.28 WHIP, 7.65 K/9, 2.22 K/BB
Marcum 11-7, 3.53 ERA, 163.0 IP, 1.15 WHIP, 7.56 K/9, 3.70 K/BB
Morrow 10-7, 4.49 ERA, 146.1 IP, 1.38 WHIP, 10.95 K/9, 2.70 K/BB
Cecil 12-7, 3.76 ERA, 153.0 IP, 1.24 WHIP, 6.35 K/9, 2.20 K/BB
All that skews is Morrow’s high ERA and K rate and Marcum’s high walk rate.
It would be interesting to see how bad that five spot has been all year. I think it has been collectively occupied by Eveland, Tallet, Mills, Litsch, and Zep. I am probably forgetting somebody.
I am not quite sure to which starts Tallet made, but I think our 5 spot record is about 7-15. I can’t remember if Tallet started in the four spot, or if that was Eveland. I just used both their stats anyways and omited Tallet’s RP stats. I think this gives us an idea on how bad our 5 spot has been.
Tallet was in Cecil's spot to start the season
If you mean the 5th as in the 5th best pitcher then yes, but if you meant the 5th rotation spot then Tallet wasn’t there.
Travis Snider
Good sight to see him doing well. Whats not a good sight is to see JPA on the bench again.
JPA is going to be hard pressed to get starts down the stretch.
They aren’t just going to sit Buck, He was an all-star this year and has been great for us and that sort of thing simply isn’t done (sitting him for a September callup) regardless of how much impact the player is going to have on the organization future.
If Molina was our starting backstop that would be different.
So taking catcher (mostly) out of the equation, that leaves us with DH’ing because to my knowledge JPA hasn’t played first at all and would need some work off the field to get used to it like Lind was doing all of this year. But for JPA to DH we need to move Lind because Lind is part of our future and can’t sit, so we move him to first and sit out Overbay? Not likely to happen since Overbay has been hitting well over the past while.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
You don't have to sit Buck or Lind...you have to sit Wise
For the 2nd game in a row Wise got the start at RF. If we can move Snider to RF, Lind to LF than the DH spot will be open for JPA. Rotate JPA and Buck once in a while to let JPA get used to catching our pitchers. By no means am I insisting that we give Buck the bench, I actually hope we resign Buck if we can.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 6, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah,
Ok the difference, I had kinda put Lind in the outfield out of my mind because he really hasn’t looked good out there from what I have seen. Not saying he is a gold glove at first but he hasn’t looked bad there (at least to my eyes).
Honestly with as few starts that he had in the OF I had almost forgot that was where he was playing before.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
Unrelated but
Colby Rasmus sure would look good in centre next year. Move Wells to right and Snider in left. Bautista at 3rd (although he might need to be part of the package).
Would love Rasmus in CF but...
We already have a log jam in the OF with Snider, Lewis, Lind, Wells, Bautista. Like you said we can move Bautista to 3B but then we have to do something with EE. We could move EE to DH which would leave Lind at 1B but Cito is barely giving Lind any playtime at 1B this past month which leaves me to think they want him to stay at DH. And in order to even get Rasmus we need to give up some good prospects which will take away from the depth we had at pitching. As much as I would love to have Rasmus in the Jays OF, I just don’t see AA pulling the trigger.
by Schenn4captain on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Cito may want him to stay at DH, but I don’t think going forward after this month that wil be the plan anymore.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
And I dont think Ramus is going to cost all that much. Considering its become public knowledge that he wants out and the team wants him gone.
Kinda lowers their bargaining power.
Life as a Toronto Sports Fan?... *sigh*... It is what it is...
I doubt he gets moved now for that reason
he’s too valuable to give up on the cheap. I’m guessing the team and he gloss over any problems and maybe he gets dealt when the Cards have more of their bargaining power back.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Yeah but if Albert Pujols
thinks he should go, he pretty much has to go doesn’t he? Can’t remember the exact comments but Albert doesn’t seem real thrilled with the kid. And to be honest I can’t really remember albert being this outspoken in the past.
Obviously any potential Rasmus deal comes in the offseason, when alot of things can become clearer. Probably just a huge pipe dream, it’d be awfully tough for a club to give up on kid like Rasmus
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