Saying Bye to Vernon Wells
In the shock and awe of the trade on the weekend, we (or I, more appropriately) didn't spend much time saying goodbye to Vernon Wells.
Vernon has always been one of my favorite players. I have a shirt with his name on the back (first Doc then Vernon, maybe me wearing your name is a sign that you aren't going to be long for the team. Perhaps Travis Snider shouldn't be looking for a house in the Toronto area). He's one of those guys that plays the game the way I'd like to think I would if I, you know, had talent. He has fun. He is often seen smiling and happy and having fun with his teammates.
He hustles, I've never seen him go slow to first base. He is in gear every time. Some (most?) players seem to run hard to first if there is a shot at a hit but if not, they don't. Not Vernon. I like that. I always wonder how often a hit is lost because the batter took a moment to judge if it was likely to be a hit before turning on the jets.
You want a guy to go from first to third, there are few better than Vernon. He cuts the bags well and has good instincts. He's always been a good percentage base stealer. I always wanted him to steal more but it isn't my hamstrings and knees that are taking the pounding.
His defense isn't what it used to be, though it looked better to me this year than the last couple. I'm sure years of playing on thinly covered concrete hasn't helped. He still goes back on a ball as well as most outfielders. Everyone remembers the highlight film catch during Brandon Morrow's near no hitter.
People complain about him swinging at the first pitch, but many of the best batters of all time were first pitch, fastball hitters. Batters know pitchers want to get ahead in the count and that the first pitch might be the best pitch they see all at bat. Vernon hits very well on that first pitch with a .334 BA and .584 SA but course, hitting .300 means 7 times out of ten you'll make an out and fans notice those 7 outs. He hits best in fastball counts, but then most batters do. He knows he hits fastballs best, so he swings when he sees one.
And, of course, Vernon is one of those few athletes that understands how fortunate his is to get paid outrageous sums of money to play a kids game and he gives back. You can read about his Perfect 10 Foundation here (at least for the time being). He was this year's winner of the Branch Ricky Award for his charity work. If you were looking for someone to represent your team and your community, you couldn't do any better than Vernon Wells.
Richard Griffin may think this:
While Wells is surely a wonderful human being - running a charitable foundation in Texas, and helping to build homes for needy families - he's not exactly what the Jays need in terms of clubhouse presence.
But I can't imagine anyone spreading a bigger pile of manure. What an incredibly dumb thing to say. You have a guy that not only hustles and plays the game hard, but is a good person and a good teammate too and that isn't the type of person you want in your clubhouse? No Richard, he wasn't traded because he was too good a guy. (yeah I know, I should ignore stupidity, but it is so hard when it is printed in the paper and people consider the source an 'expert').
He's had good years and bad years (haven't we all, I'd hate someone to put a statistic line by each year of my life. I can just see my kids now: "Dad, last you were a -4.2 on Wins Against Replacement Fathers). The good years have been great fun to watch. The bad ones, he battled through as best he could. Maybe sometimes he shouldn't have tried to battle through injuries, but when you are paid to play ball, it must be hard to figure where the line is on that.
So, while I think it was one amazing trade that Alex Anthopoulos pulled off, I'll miss watching Vernon. He is a class act. I was proud that he was a Blue Jay. I wish him the best in the rest of his career.
Vernon was picked up in the 1st round of the 1997 draft. The only player picked after him, in the first round, to have a better career, to this point, is Lance Berkman, picked by the Astros with the 15th pick.
Vernon's numbers in 12 seasons as a Jay: 1393 games, 5963 at bats, 789 runs, 1529 hits, 339 doubles, 30 triples, 223 home runs, 813 RBI, 90 steals with a .280/.329/.475 line. He owns the 3rd best season ever by a Jays batter, by WAR figures, with a 6.7 in 2006.
His place among Jay franchise batting leaders:
WAR: 4th, 25.6.
Offensive WAR: 3rd, 28.0.
BA: 15th, .280.
OBP: 24th, .329.
Slugging: 7th, .475.
OPS: 12th, .804
Games Played: 3rd, 1393.
At Bats: 1st, 5470.
Runs Scored: 2nd, 789.
Hits: 2nd, 1529.
Total Bases: 2nd, 2597.
Doubles: 2nd, 339.
Home runs: 2nd, 223.
RBI: 2nd, 813.
Walks: 6th, 406.
Stolen Bases: 10th, 90.
Runs Created: 2nd, 839.
Sac Flies: 4th, 56.
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Well said.
It’s too bad that he was too often judged by the salary figure rather than effort and results. He is a good baseball player and one of the best Jays ever. Go get’em Vernon!
Good luck in Anaheim Boo.
I’m guessing he’ll do big things this year, especially now that he gets to play 23948 games against Texas.
Trapped in the past, Craig finds himself leaping from blog to blog, putting things right that once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home.
by craig in calgary on Jan 24, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions
I thought he'd destroy a bunch of those categories
As we all did, I’m sure. It’s a shame you won’t get the chance, Vernon. Good luck in SoCal!
Completely agree
Vernon was my favorite current Blue Jay and (with Doc) probably my favorite since Carlos Delgado was here and I will miss him being a part of the organization. I agree with Joe that he was judged mostly by his contract and sometimes unfairly judged. He was a good player and seems like an even better person and anytime you lose someone like that, it will take time for him to be replaced. I’ll still root for him in Anaheim and am glad he didn’t go to the Yankees or Sox!
by GMac14 on Jan 24, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hehehe
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 24, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly my sentiments
As for Griffin, well, no fool like an old fool who won’t let anyone forget that he was the Expos PR guy in the 80s.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 24, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions
He was their PR guy? No wonder they fell of the planet!
And to think that this idiot aspired to be the Jays’ GM…
Festina Lente
great post, Tom
I couldn’t agree more. This is a very exciting trade for the Jays and a very smart move by AA, but a little part of me is sorry to see Vernon go. He’s one of the good ones. With Marcum and now Wells gone, I’ll need to come up with a new favourite Jay or two.
That Griffin comment gets dumber every time I think about it.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Let me misquote you too...
That Griffincommentgets dumber every time I think about it.
Festina Lente
I think you're right about that Griffin comment
and it was incredibly dumb the first time I thought about it
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
Agree completely.
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
Hess, sorry but this seemed like too much fun
A little part of me is sorry to see … That Griffin … gets dumber.
Proud member of the AL North
No, No, No! Let me show you how to do it properly...
ButI can’t imagineanyone spreadinga bigger pile of manure. What an incredibly dumbthing to say. You have aguythat not only hustles and plays the game hard, but is a good person and a good teammate too andthat isn’t the type ofperson you want in your clubhouse? NoRichard,he wasn’t traded because he was too good a guy. (yeahI know,I should ignore stupidity, but it is so hard when it is printed in the paperand people consider the source an ‘expert’).
Festina Lente
Vernon will be missed
Vernon was never a favorite for me, but he was like some of the music out there today – there more you watched the more you liked the guy, last year he moved into being one of my favorite ball players. I play ball and have played through a shoulder and leg injury and that is at an amateur level – I can just imagine how hard it was for him to play through what he did – but he did and probably hurt his reputation here with fans. In my eyes, we should be thankful we got to watch him patrol center as long as he did – I think maybe what irks me most about the trade is that the Jays traded a truely good person for a guy in Juan Rivera who has a reputation of being a whiner. Good luck Vernon – have a great year – except against the Jays of course!
The worst thing that ever happened to Vernon’s reputation in Toronto was that contract and the subsequent tanking of the economy. I remember clearly when they were getting ready to offer it, because the Yankees and the Angels were supposed to have slightly gaudier deals in the works. Wells, in an interview, made it clear that as long as the Jays were in the same marketplace, they’d be his first choice. There’s a thought that the guys likely left an extra $10M on the table signing his unmovable contract.
He was a great community leader, he played hard and with great sportsmanship, he represented the Jays with class, and even in the face of adversity, never lost his sense of humour or his perspective. I hope that Wells remembers the good years and the good fans here in Toronto, and let’s the boobirds and the radio call-ins and the moutbreathers fade from his memories.
Always loved Vernon. Was sorry to see him go. (Think the trade is great for the team though.) I remember when I was a kid he signed a ball for me the game he hit his first career home run. Still got the ball in ny apartment. He’ll always be one of my favourites. Assuming the Jays don’t make a Padre-esque run this season I’ll be rooting for him and the Angels come September/October. Good luck Vernon! Here’s wishing you pull a Tony Fernandez and find your way back to TO one day!
by AErskine on Jan 24, 2011 1:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
yes
it would be nice to see Wells sign cheaply to back up the out field (or maybe even start) in 4 years
If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else
Very nice post Tom
Loved the hustle and attitude. Griffin is an idiot (along with someone else there). Stopped reading the Star years ago when the Sun reached this area.
Do think you should consider losing (selling) your Snider shirt. I’d like to see him stick around for a bit. :-)
I'll buy the Snider Jersey
Then get casted as the villain in the next AA7 movie.
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AA on the Fan 590
AA was on the Jeff Blair show this morning. It was a good interview and is available online for anyone interested.
by Al Bundy is my hero on Jan 24, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions
Link
http://www.fan590.com/media.jsp?content=20110124_093255_5844
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Henke was elected into the Canadian Baseball hall of Fame. Congrats.
We need a poll
Most hated Jays reporter..I’ll nominate Steve Simmons to go along with Griffin for a start..really not sure how I’d vote just with those two names.
also completely off topic but..
does anyone have a link to one of those graphics that show Napoli’s hits in Angels stadium last year overlayed over Rogers Centers dimensions?
Griffin can at least present his opinion and defend it even though some disagree with him. Simmons is just a side show coloumnist that likes to jump on the hot topic and say some stupid comment that get’s peoples blood boiling.
I look forward to reading in the Sun oneday " and whatever happened to Steve Simmons!"
by Al Bundy is my hero on Jan 24, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well Cox gets a distinguished service award for worse journalist but then he really doesn't write about the Jays much.
I kind of hate to put up a negative pole, but this week Griffin would be at the top of my list. I’d be kind of interested in hearing who is everyone’s favorite mainstream media journalist. For me it is easy, Bob Elliot, because he replies to my emails.
Im not really a fan of many.
I like Shi Davidi though.
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
Same
Although I usually enjoy Shi Davidi and Tom Verducci. Blair I have a hot/cold relationship with, and I hate to say it, but when Griffin doesn’t have his head shoved firmly up his… Expos PR job, he’s an extremely good writer. I actually look forward to his Spring Training coverage.
I will say one thing about Griffin, I normally don’t like his stuff, but he does a flat out amazing job covering the winter meetings over the past couple of years.
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
That’s where his daughter was conceived one year, don’t you know?
True story.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Yeah I could have done without that one though.
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
Griffin is good writer
but a poor baseball analyst, and understands everything according to his pop-psychology gibberish
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Good luck Vernon
I always appreciated his work for the Jays and I hope he has a good run with Angels.
Thanks Vernon and good luck in the future!
I'll miss Vernon alot.
I hope he plays great for the Angels.
Jose Bautista has a higher midi-chlorian count than you do.
I'll miss him, too
But in my case mostly for sentimental reasons. He was the “familiar face” of the Blue Jays for me, along with Doc unitl last year. Vernon was there when I went to see my first ever Baseball game at the Skydome in 2003 and became a fan of the Blue Jays. Players come and go, and the longer you’re a fan of a team, the sooner you’ll be a fan longer than virtually all the players, coaches etc. Vernon, however, for me was the guy that was always there. And this hilarious contract, well, I don’t blame him for it as it was nicely offered to him, and with him being the guy that was always there, the contract didn’t really bother me. I know, that’s irrational, but that’s what being caught in sentimental fandom sometimes is like.
All the best to Vernon and good luck getting to the playoffs. But please: have a bad day when playing against the Jays :-)
Always on of my faves
even if he could be frustrating at times. In this day and age we rip a lot of players for perceived lack of effort but never Wells. There was more exciting and beautiful than watching Wells crank up that bat speed and get behind one to left field. The ball had a way of popping off his bat like few others. Good guy, good Jay, good luck.
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
I'll miss him
I speculated on a reply to Dave Cameron’s post “How Could Wells Earn His Contract?” on Fangraphs that we could see a resurgence in VW’s performance playing on grass instead of the artificial stuff we’re forced to live with having a multi-purpose facility.
He’s a class act, a fine human being and always played with Heart and Hustle, even when in pain.
by bluejaysstatsgeek on Jan 24, 2011 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Some insight into the starting lineup this year
Anthopolous was on Inside Pitch on MLB radio today..he said the outfield would be Davis in center, with Snider and Rivera manning the corners..which corner, which player, would be determined in ST, nothing said but assuming Bautista is the third baseman from that..have to guess no Chavez as well.
Ugh
…not a pretty defensive lineup.
Do not like Rivera in lineup everyday either.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Uh...
Davis is a superior talent in centre (like Vernon used to be).
by Paul Chicago on Jan 25, 2011 7:16 AM EST up reply actions
He wasn't last year...
…but even if he is this year, he almost has to be incredible. Rivera is (by a variety of accounts) a complete pylon, and Snider, although he’s decent, is rarely going to be confused for a gold glove OF.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Also
Snider almost certainly has to play RF now, because Rivera is terrible in LF and would be even more terrible in RF.
Still praying that something happens and Bautista ends up in the OF and EE or anyone else at 3B.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Snider almost certainly has to play RF now, because Rivera is terrible in LF and would be even more terrible in RF.
This is a good thing, in my opinion. Snider is a good fielder, with room to improve.
I can get on board with that...
…but it doesn’t mean I want Rivera in LF every day either.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Rivera isn't terrible in the field
He may be bad overall, especially in 2010. In 2010, according to Fangraphs he was worth -2.4 runs fielding. That makes him slightly below average. By comparison in Manny’s worst year he was worth -25 runs fielding. That’s terrible!
I think Rivera has a place as a spare fielder and maybe against all left-handed starters if Bautista is at 3rd. It depends if he learns to hit again :)
by JaysSaskatchewan on Jan 25, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
V-Dub
Catcha later and maybe you can come back to end your career as a Jay when it’s time to hang up the cleats.
Maybe we can get him back in 2014 for a swan song. The Angels would have to send some money though :)
by JaysSaskatchewan on Jan 25, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
As a postscript...
Look at Napoli vs. AL East pitching last season, OPS’s:
vs. BOS – .882
vs. NYY – .838
vs. TAM – .935
Bye Vernon, it was real (and so is this).
how about we also look at the sample sizes
Boston: 33 PA
New York: 24 PA
Tampa Bay: 26 PA
OPS over small samples is horrible because it can way overly inflate the value of slugging. Also, really, any batting stats over 80 PA tell you nothing
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
just for fun
career numbers (between 80 and 100 Plate appearances against each):
BOS: .250/.318/.538
TAM: .211/.333/.451
NYY: .370/.505/.630
BAL: .233/.329/.356
if that’s anything other than statistical noise, I’m not seeing it
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Thanks Vernon
It has been a slice. Goodluck in LAA.
re: griffin
I’ll play devil’s advocate here… love him or hate him, that’s fine, but he does cover the Jays and IS the guy at the ballpark, in the dressing room, talking to players/management making hismelf more objective than all the keyboard warriors and fan website “journalists”
Yep, that is true. Then again didn’t see anyone disputing that. All we said was something he said was stupid. Even people with access or really smart people can say stupid things.
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
huh?
that might give him more information, but it certainly doesn’t make him any more objective
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
If anything it would make him less objective.
Not going to write something that is really negative towards certain people or the organization when you have to face them. Or worse yet lose your credentials.
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
I've always thought I wouldn't want to be in the clubhouse so I could remain objective.
I know if I met a player and liked him or disliked him as a person, it would effect what I thought of him as a player.
Wellsie
Good article. Three years ago wells got off to a good start, jammed his wrist charging a shallow fly ball in may I think it was, and that effected him for a year and a half. Some “fans” decided to start hatin’ him when he obviously wasn’t 100%. Wells took a lot of crap from fans and the media. Wells battled through and was finally healthy last year. Wells had a good year last year.
Wells is a good man and I wish him the best in sunny so-cal. I’m happy for him. Again, good article. Oh, and yes, that griffin guy is a butthead.
re griffin
Despite what you think, journalists don’t care who wins or loses, or if a guy is a nice guy or a jerk — at least competent journos that don’t work for Rogers affiliates.
In that vein, they will always be more objective than fans, who are rooting for their club.
My comment was in response to the pile of manure line — whether I agree or disagree with Griffin or not — I just think that he is in a better position to relate if Wells is not exactly what the Jays need in terms of clubhouse presence, than fans.
Because he talks to Wells, teammates, management, coaches and is getting info fans are not.

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