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Did the Jays Win the Bidding for Yu Darvish?

There are tons of rumors out there, but a lot of them are suggesting the Jays won the bidding, but no one knows anything yet. We might know sometime tonight or tomorrow morning.

Teams that are rumored not to have bid on Yu: Marlins, A's, Mets, Rays, Angels, Twins and Red Sox. Yankees put in a 'modest bid'.

I've got no inside information, but we'll put up a thread and we can share any good rumors in the thread. We'll update when we know more.

I'm hopeful, but we shall see.

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Unconfirmed $ rank of Darvish bids: 1) Yankees, 2) Blue Jays, 3) Auburn, 4) Cubs, 5) Rangers.

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe it was a joke, I dunno.

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

It’s a university that’s been accused of paying their football players (which is obviously banned). Most notably Cam Newton.

by Mathlete on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

got it

thanks

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to get all stereotypical

But the “y’all” and the "hockey junior worlds or whatever " kinda says it all, no? Up here, it’s pretty tough to avoid the coverage, even if you don’t much attention to hockey, and goodness knows if we don’t win it will be a national tragedy – not to mention we aren’t very good hockey losers (see here).

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 5:29 AM EST up reply actions  

No

I understand. That’s my point. I’m laughing at myself while laughing at you. Stereotype away.

In the States, it was impossible to miss the Auburn coverage. Biggest story (not in sports, biggest story) of last year. In Canada, no one cares about Auburn, but it’d be impossible to miss the hockey coverage as you point out. To me, the stark difference is hilarious. Neither side is “right” or “better”, I just think it’s funny.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 15, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

What I wrote was meant as entirely intended in jest. It sounded a lot better when I was half-asleep at 5:00AM having woken up to check to see if Darvish has signed.

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I have no idea

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Cmon Tom, its time to call your sources

BBB need to break the news first

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by noname3 on Dec 14, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Hearing in Japan

Ham Fighters accepted. Bid is $50m and went to the Jays. Please take with grain of salt. Japanese news is NOT on the up and up all of the time. They keep saying that Fukushima is safe…

by LVBlueJaysFan on Dec 14, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

me?

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I live in Japan

Heard it on NHK. Also now hearing that it was the Nats. Again, it is speculation here. Even the team that won the bidding doesn’t know that they won the bidding. But Nippon has accepted and there should be more tomorrow in the U.S. It’s 1423 here on 15 Dec.

by LVBlueJaysFan on Dec 15, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I loved welcome to the NHK

and with that, goodnight

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 15, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

The Nats?

That just hurt my heart a bit.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Giants didn't bid either

Rumored to be a “Mystery” team

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

From updated mlbtr post

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

the Phillies are going to have a crazy rotation

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Some joker on Twitter said the Phillies "won"

It might have been and if it had been true I think my mind would have been blown.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I cant find any reason for that to be true. their payroll is high enough as it is, they have tremendous pitching, they need offense not more pitching and they still haven’t signed hamels

by Sniderlover on Dec 14, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't really matter where you upgrade

as long as you do upgrade

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

When the video showed the Rays tying the game 7-7 I couldn’t stop laughing hysterically for a good 2-3 minutes.

Follow me @Minor_Leaguer

by Minor Leaguer on Dec 15, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Just finished this, love it. Also, what a freaking night of baseball that was. Unbelievable

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh man

After the O’s won the game, I immediately changed the channel to the Yankees/Rays just in time to see the walk-off. Best night of baseball ever.

(Other than 1993 WS, obviously)

by Adrian O on Dec 15, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I want to sleep and then wake up on Tuesday and just find out who won. The rumours drive me nuts

by leaflover4ever on Dec 14, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

I'm with you there

Although I have an exam on friday…

by Qd6 on Dec 14, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I have an exam tomorrow at 8:30 AM. I win!

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

what if that's

next monday?

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by Woodman663 on Dec 14, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would the fighters wait that long?

If the rumor that they were extremely pleased is true, you’d expect them to accept pretty quickly.

by Nadia on Dec 14, 2011 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

they can accept without us know who won.

In fact, I’m pretty sure they have.

I blog, therefore I am.

by Tom Dakers on Dec 14, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it gets announced on Tuesday

but it could get leaked before that

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty sure once the team excepts the bid it is announced

but of course i have nothing to back that up besides what i’ve read on the posting process

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It might not be announced until the negotiations start

But I’d expect something to leak out over the weekend, it is pretty tough to keep things a secret once the player knows.

I blog, therefore I am.

by Tom Dakers on Dec 15, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

they have till Tuesday to accept the bid

Though I can’t imagine why it would take them that long to decide as I’m sure it’s an astronomical amount. The Ham Fighters don’t know the identity of the club that submitted the highest bid though, so I would be rather suspicious of any reports out of Japan about the identity of the bidding team.

by No Way Jose on Dec 14, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

$50M is a pretty heavy bid if true

But I guess this is the last time we can throw money around to acquire top prospects now that the Jays can’t spend wildly on draft picks or overseas FAs

by No Way Jose on Dec 14, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure if he’s just screwing around with people, but he’s definitely dropping the Toronto hints hard.

JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
rumor is, at least 1 darvish bid was “sky” high. may have been "north’’ of $50M. again, unconfirmed.

by Mathlete on Dec 14, 2011 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully it's "north" of 49

As an the 49th parallel.

I haven’t been following, would this be a good thing?

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

been a while

having fun at AP?

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

No

I hate football again. My football team sucks, may baseball team is a perpetual .500 team, tis a tough time being a sports fan.

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheer up. You could be a Leaf's fan 2004-10

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't you mean

1967+ ?

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 14, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't remind me.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry

there is another centennial coming up in 2067.

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 14, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

To paraphrase

The line from the parody of the Joe Canadian commercial, in some places the Stanley Cup comes around more often than Haley’s Comet

by MjwW on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 14, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm used to it

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If it helps

they are better than the Riders.

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

So

How do you feel about Encarnacion’s role in the upcoming season?

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by Woodman663 on Dec 14, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on how the rest of the offseason shakes out.

I don’t hate him as a DH.

That being said, I still send him daily hate mail.

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it is

Great blog for a terrible team.

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

NICE

huge chiefs fan here too. I was just on there before I came over. Great to finally see Palko will not start. thank god

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

co-sign.

These are dark days my friend.

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ill keep an eye out for ya on both sites

huge fan, on both these sites regularly. hardcore sports fan chiefs/leafs/jays

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well cheer up

You could always be a Bills fan, which is far worse.

I mean, the other day I figured I’ve actually been alive longer since the last time the Bills were in the playoffs than I was before that.

by MjwW on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol, your math is a little off

A 12 year old would have been less than a month old when the Bills last made the playoffs.

I was 11 when that happened.

by MjwW on Dec 14, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but none of that pain

equals the pain of watching the worst qb in NFL history start for your team 3 straight weeks, and that is Tyler Palko

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

That’s not as bad as 3 years of JP Losman.

Especially since, had they not traded their next year’s 1st round draft pick to acquire the pick to draft Losman, they could have drafted Rodgers when he slid.

Only the Lions trump the Bills the last decade in overall sorriness, and they’re doing just fine right now even.

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Just saw this already mentioned in the Halladay thread. My bad.

by Mathlete on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Fingers are crossed

I’m going to bed in the hopes that when i check the news in the morning the jays have won the bidding war.

Here’s to Yu…

by TrueBlue4Ever! on Dec 14, 2011 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

same

I should’ve gone to bed long ago! (5:42 AM now)

Oh well..

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by Woodman663 on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s what I should do.
I won’t do that.

by leaflover4ever on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

in Korean

“Darvish” sounds kind of like “Moon Light”, so I’m going to call him that

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Field of Dreams reference?

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 14, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

not really

never watched FoD

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You should

and Moonlight Graham was a principal character. Part of which was based on Moonlight Graham’s baseball career and life.

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 14, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But first

Read the Book on which it’s based – Shoeless Joe by WP Kinsella.

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never read that

thanks for the idea.

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by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

A Canadian born-and-bread writer ...

… producing a book that’s so country home-spun Americana.

by Defense Counts! on Dec 15, 2011 5:43 AM EST up reply actions  

(I think I've mentioned this)

But in Arabic, Darvish means loopy. But I’m still gonna call him Farid.

by Nadia on Dec 14, 2011 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

loopy as in crazy?

or like that of a loop

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

loopy as in the whirling dervishes (followers of Sufi) who in Islam are considered to be crazy.

by khaleeji on Dec 15, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

loopy

as in his slurveball is crazy loopy lol

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Biz Marky... for amusement (inspired by a post from Bleed Cubbie Blue)

I asked him his name, He said Yu Darvish
He had a 12/6 curve and a hard fastball
I took a couple of flicks and He was enthused
I said, “How do you like the show?”
He said, “I was very amused”
I started throwin’ cash, he started throwin’ back AAV
But when I sprung the question, he acted kind of strange
Then when I asked, “Do ya have a team?” he tried to pretend
He said, “No I don’t, I only have a Bid”
Come on, I’m not even goin’ for it
This is what I’m goin’ sing

Yu, Yu got what I need but you say it’s just a bid
And you say it’s just a bid, oh baby
Yu, Yu got what I need but you say it’s just a bid
But you say it’s just a bid, oh baby
Yu, Yu got what I need but you say it’s just a bid
But you say it’s just a bid

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hasn't anyone done

Never Gonna Give Yu Up yet?

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that I've seen.

But I think the BoSox got rick rolled though.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm been ambivalent about this

By I’m beginning to think that winning this bid might be good just to quiet all the insufferable “Rogers won’t spend money” and payroll parameters talk.

by MjwW on Dec 14, 2011 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

no more screwed then we were with wells

and not really that screwed with all our prospects we can make a lot of big things happen

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone wants a DiceK situation on their hands

But hindsight is always 20-20. The first two seasons, I thought DiceK was pretty decent for the BoSox tho.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He beat the Jays... Sigh.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

I think it was more of a durability/injury issue with DiceK.

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 14, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

his lack of success is entirely on him.

it was also because dice k didn’t think conditioning and strength training was necessary for a major leaguer.

by ddbumpus on Dec 15, 2011 12:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Me too.

That being said, it would be some offseason excitement. Jeff Mathis doesn’t having me pine for the start of baseball

by craig in calgary on Dec 14, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This is going to be so off-topic

But.. to help make everyone’s time go just a bit faster, have a look at this

But.. to help make everyone’s time go just a bit faster, have a look at thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4a9CKgLprQ

by Qd6 on Dec 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

I just watched the Halloween one

it’s awesome hahaha, umm…. what don’t you get _

by Qd6 on Dec 15, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

did anyone see the post on jaysprospects

weird that they took it down. i read it, then they said due to fans requests they took it down. Why take it down?

I dont know if I buy that there would be any source within the jays that would give out info on jays winning the bid. The winning team may not even know they won it yet

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

btw this blog post said

that the jays won the bid. from an undisclosed source…..

i hope it happens, i would be SOOOOOO HAPPY

by TheMainEvent on Dec 14, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be so happy too!

But, I have a feeling the undisclosed source was a sock puppet.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 14, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Anyone saying they have a 'source' that know is a liar.

It was only known in the commissioner’s office last night, no one has a source there.

I blog, therefore I am.

by Tom Dakers on Dec 15, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't like to do this...

but i’m gona freeze myself. Can somebody unfreeze me when we know?

by jmauer09 on Dec 15, 2011 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

If anyone was to invent a time machine..

now is the time to do it. C’monnnnn Tuesday!

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

It’s the process, not the destination

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yu know, if we actually get the this guy, I might rue the day after I throw up from reading the millionth Yu pun

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I love puns, but even I’m getting sick of these

by leaflover4ever on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yu don’t say.

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Like Clue.

JoeyBats. Over the right field Fence. The ball was in his kitchen.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It was the Man in White, RF stands. The victim was the New York Yankees.

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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Dec 15, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

What

How could Joey Bats go over RF. That’s like unpossible

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 15, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Opposite field dinger

Gotta fake them out.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

If Yu build it they will come

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 15, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm listening to OLP

“If Yu Believe”

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m listening to:

“All I want for X-mas is Yu”

AA - Sign Darvish, Cespedes, AND Jorge Soler

by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 15, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Or what?

Who’s gonna stop me?

Yu and what army?

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by JaysSaskatchewan on Dec 15, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

yu dont say.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish to revise and extend my earlier remarks

I’m back to ambivalent about getting him

If we do…Yu puns forever
If we don’t…listening to Rogers is cheap forever.

Ugh.

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah, the failure of the past seasons only makes the journey more...

Awesome. When they do win it.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to get my hopes up

to have them dashed…then I’ll have to heat up the oven all over again

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Dec 15, 2011 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

As a jays/leafs/raps fan for the past 20+ years

Getting our hopes demolished is how we do.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair

not a big hockey fan or anything, but I seem to remember Leafs being really really good when Pat Quinn was head coach, this was probably back in the early 2000s

by Qd6 on Dec 15, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

The Leafs made the conference finals 4 times in the past 20 years. more so then any other Canadian team.

To be fair, every Canadian team has made it to a cup final in that time frame though.

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by JohnnyG on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm fairly young (ish)

And my most heartbreaking moment as a sports fan was the Leafs losing (under Pat Quinn) in the East Conf Finals vs Carolina in OT. I was 14. I got teary eyed.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Pssh. I'm a man. I'm 40.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Teary-eyed?

I full-on sobbed. I was 15.

by Adrian O on Dec 15, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

It was funny on the Fan 590 today

during one of their updates they said “in the sweepsteakes for Yu Darvish, the Redsox, Angels and Twins did not bid.”

Couldn’t help but think, who gives a F about the Twins

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Buck and Pat

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes

Without the Twinkies, there’d be no team that plays the game the right way

by siggian on Dec 15, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Radke?

What ever happened to him.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Hall of fame eligible

So retired 5 years ago. Had a good career. Kind of the epitome of the soid, unremarkable mid rotation guy

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

OT:

but do any of you like The Tallest Man On Earth?

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

The guy that lives in London Ontario? He is massive

I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...

by JohnnyG on Dec 15, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I never kid.

I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...

by JohnnyG on Dec 15, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Although I think he is just the tallest guy in Canada, not so much the world.

I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
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by JohnnyG on Dec 15, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

alright, calling it a night

and that means in 5 minutes there will be reports flying around of Jays winning the Darvish bid

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Dec 15, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

But but but but but

you’re missing the best part! potential twitter crashes!?!?

by Qd6 on Dec 15, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Random.

I like how Tim and Sid are on the Fan 590. Two of my faves. In the words of Brett Lawrie, they’re beauuuuuuuuts.

Lawrie’s tweets never make any sense.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

Funniest thing he said though...

essunbolivable

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

It won't be the Jays

if the bid is truly “sky hight” it will be the Nats, Rangers or maybe Cubs. Unless the Yanks are pulling a fast one. Either way I doubt the Jays out bid that many teams

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Dec 15, 2011 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

But... but.... your screen name?

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

I beleaf – not sure if it’s worth the gamble, but what do I know

by Beleaf on Dec 15, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

lol, just messin with ya.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

in Japan

Not hearing anything about it yet here in japan

by esto jr on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

thx

keep us updated please!

by TheMainEvent on Dec 15, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I know AA went to Japan to see him pitch, but does anybody happen to know how many games he saw him pitch? Or how Darvish pitched in those games?

by BrodyBats on Dec 15, 2011 2:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

He was there from about Aug 30-Sept 2

Source. So I just assume one game. According to the game log here, he pitches 8 inning, 5 hits, 9 K, 3BB, 1 ER/R

by MjwW on Dec 15, 2011 5:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks MjwW

by BrodyBats on Dec 15, 2011 5:21 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Pirates have won the bid!

I got inside information from my cousin’s best friend’s uncle’s neighbor, who knows someone who polishes the shoes of a Pirate’s executive.

Remember, you heard it here first.

by Defense Counts! on Dec 15, 2011 5:51 AM EST reply actions  

Still nothing, gotta go to bed sometime..right?

by Kipp24 on Dec 15, 2011 6:23 AM EST reply actions  

Darn it

I thought we would know who won by the time I woke up.

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by Woodman663 on Dec 15, 2011 7:45 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

With it now being almost 11pm in Japan (9 am est), I don’t think we will here anything until tonight at the earliest now.

by Al Bundy is my hero on Dec 15, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe…although MLB Trade Rumors is suggesting it is expected from MLB this morning.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

by Jevant on Dec 15, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

but i wonder what his father thinks

yu ‘son of’ darvish must be excited about coming to the majors

sorry, it just came to me, i had to put it in a sentence no matter how dumb it sounded hahahaha

by TheMainEvent on Dec 15, 2011 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

Jays Need To Do Something

The biggest off season need for the Jays was addressing the closer role. I personally still think this position is underrated in baseball circles. I think AA did well in getting Santos but the cost was steep too. This was an important move but I don’t get the feeling from the fan base that this got their attention. Despite the 18 years of mediocrity the Jays have increased fan interest in the last couple of seasons. But I really feel that the fan base needs to see management step up in some way. Dealing away some of our excellent prospects is not the way to do that. Our prospects is one of the things that has captured the heart of the fan base. Yu Darvish and/or Prince Fielder fill a need on this team and both are relatively young. Yu is probably the cheaper option of the two, or at least the shorter term, so you have to think that AA went strong for him. Even if Yu does not live up to the 2-3 slot in the rotation I don’t think AA will suffer back lash for trying to improve the club this way. Furthermore if Yu does live up to a number two starter or better, then we should have an interesting team because I am expecting better seasons from Romero, Morrow, and Cecil just like expected a step back last year (Romero improved).

by B.Leaf on Dec 15, 2011 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think the average fan had heard about Molina too much for it to scare anyone away. As for the closer role, I somewhat agree with you. I think blogs under value closers as a natural reaction to main stream media’s over valuation of it. Many times the 8th is the more difficult inning, but players still put more pressure on themselves for that last inning. Maybe they shouldn’t but they do so a GM and manager need to ensure a guy that can pitch and deal with said pr

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry mobile fail again….

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Dec 15, 2011 9:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think the average fan had heard about Molina too much for it to scare anyone away. As for the closer role, I somewhat agree with you. I think blogs under value closers as a natural reaction to main stream media’s over valuation of it. Many times the 8th is the more difficult inning, but players still put more pressure on themselves for that last inning. Maybe they shouldn’t but they do so a GM and manager need to ensure a guy that can both pitch and deal with said pressure.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Dec 15, 2011 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hate that I am going to get little to no work done until they announce this….

Anyway, at least there’s this:

Rangers, Blue Jays, Yankees & Cubs all submit bids for Yu Darvish…MLB expected to announce winning bid on Thursday Morning

From Jim Bowden @ ESPN

-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
Lest we forget: Brett Lebda

by kudzupo on Dec 15, 2011 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

Expected to?

Come on, hurry!! I have work to do!!

by BrownMagician on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

AA rubbed me the wrong way

..when he blamed the fans for not showing up to games which then prevents him to sign big FA players…please, the Angels sold thousands of season tickets within a week of the Pujols and Wilson signing.

I predict whoever signs Darvish will likely land Fielder. Can you imagine Darvish and Fielder as Blue Jays? How many more season tickets do you think would sell after that announcement?

Put up or shut up…fans have been hearing 2012 for the last 3 years, and guess what? It is 2012! Make a move!

by Marcos Montenegro on Dec 15, 2011 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

I thought anyone it was us fans wagon said 2012

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Dec 15, 2011 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Marcos

If we get Darvish AND Fielder, I’m going down to the Rogers Centre to buy jerseys the second it happens. Along with foam fingers, hats, and reserve my spot for the playoff run. It might almost be worth a single set of season tickets along one of the baselines.

by BrownMagician on Dec 15, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

so you can sit in the stands...

…and cheer your heroes. It will be as if you had dipped yourselves in magic waters….

by Xavier on Dec 15, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!!

Give us a product on the field that can energize the franchise and help us forget the last 19 years of mediocrity!!!

by Marcos Montenegro on Dec 15, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wot?

Jedi’s awesomeness, RR Cool Jay’s coolness, and the Tasmanian Devil known as Lawrie aren’t enough for you?

by siggian on Dec 15, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

and you know

the best pitcher of the generation

by benk on Dec 15, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Not for the average/casual fans, not enough to contend

It’s just not enough to contend in the AL EAST fellas. Agreed that LAWRIE, BAU, and RR are my favorite Blue Jays. But let us examine a few of the other players in key positions that I believe need vast improvement in 2012:

LIND- I don’t buy for a minute that he has a come back year left. For all we know he might have been juicing in 2009, just like A. Hill. He’s a choker that seems to hit a ton when you’re up by 10 and strikes out when the game is on the line. This is ahy I would sign FIELDER, or trade.

EE
- He is good if you need a right bat off the bench. Not more, PLEASE not more. Too streaky to consider for everyday play.

CECIL- He doesn’t have electric stuff so he needs to be ON his game ALL the time; reminds me of Mills. If he’s off by an inch, he’ll have another 2011. I really don’t see how he wins 15 games ever again. Maybe an OK option in the bullpen.

RASMUS/JOHNSON- Huge question marks that will only get answered with a complete season at CF/2B respectively. Both have to anwer the psychological questions all of us have about them.

The bench is VERY WEAK, even with the latest add-ons (MATHIS, VALBUENA, FRANCISCO) to the already weak bench of DAVIS, MCCOY, THAMES, SNIDER, TEAHEN < why is he still in the active roster??). We’re one injury away from another .500 season.

Let’s go and sign Darvish and Fielder and get this thing started!

by Marcos Montenegro on Dec 15, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

that didn't address his point at all

you’re saying people will come to the games if we sign star players. we have and have had star players (even surefire Hall of Famer(s)) and people still didn’t go to the games. if you don’t want to go to the games because the team isn’t good enough, are you sure you don’t just cheer for winning?

by benk on Dec 15, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just glad that AA seems to prefer building the team for long term success

rather than appeasing the “casual fan”. Signing big name players to large contracts without a solid foundation (such as the year we got BJ Ryan, Thomas, and Burnett) just leads to a short window of contention and then years of mediocrity. Casual fans will come back once this team starts winning, so there is really no reason to make rash decisions to make them come back sooner then the team is ready to continually contend.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Dec 15, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If Lind and and Hill were juicing in 2009

Then they better get back on it ASAP. Not only did it really help their game, it was undetectable by MLB testing….

by siggian on Dec 15, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I seem to recall a fair amount of walkoffs from Lindy the last couple years…

Jose Bautista has a higher midi-chlorian count than you do.

by Jays11 on Dec 15, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Again

It was suspected to be 2013, and no actual year was put on the “contending year” year
I would prove this by looking at posts from two years ago… but i’m far to lazy i hope my memory is just correct.

A lot of us here think we can contend in 2012 if we add a few more pieces, but i do not believe it was in AA’s plan for this year.

Rent this for cheap!!

by Bowling_Guy25 on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

JAYS made a WHOPPER of an offer according to MLBTR

Dallas Grant of the Dallas morning news is reporting that the Jays made a whopping offer and that the Rangers bid somewhere between $40-$49 mil.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

by Al Bundy is my hero on Dec 15, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

Part of me wishes the Jays had the highest bid on Darvish

just so it will shut up the whole “Rogers is cheap” crowd.

Hic sunt fortuna dracones
There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison

by JaysfanDL on Dec 15, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

we spend money on good players

a cheap team wouldn’t commit $52M or whatever to Jose Bautista.

by benk on Dec 15, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't need to convince anyone here

He’s talking about the mainstream “fan” who clamours about how Rogers is cheap.

by T_Mizz on Dec 15, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, absolutely

I know I’m preaching to the choir but I still felt the need to say it (there’re a few thinly veiled “Rogers is cheap!!111” comments on here even)

by benk on Dec 15, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it doesn't need to be said here as much

but you know the ones I’m talking about, Benk. The casual fans who freak out when the Jays don’t chase overpriced free agents but ignore the money spent on the draft, IFA signings, the increased number of scouts, money thrown in for a deal (Halladay) or a contract taken back in a trade to give the other team salary relief (Teahen, Rivera).

Hic sunt fortuna dracones
There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison

by JaysfanDL on Dec 15, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

On the Dallas Morning News site they are having an open forum where he said he believes that the Jays bid over $50 mil, but doesn’t know if it is the highest bid.

by Al Bundy is my hero on Dec 15, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Now watch me Yuuuuu Crank dat Soulja Boy

So many possibilites!

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

I don't really like him.

But it worked I thought. And I enjoy that pic Benk.

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If we lose the bidding:

Nevermind we’ll find someone like Yuuu, we hope nothing but the best for Yuuuuu

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I'm probably behind everyone here but I just watched video of Darvish for the first time.

Woah…I want the Jays to win the bidding sooo much more now

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Get back to...

…STUDYING!!

Hugo thinks I'm a lazy academic

by bluejaysstatsgeek on Dec 15, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm leaving for the exam now.

Do or die time.

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

lol
The man saying the Blue Jays made a huge offer on Yu Darvish is the same man who gave Michael young a first place vote on his MVP ballot.

@BlueJayHunter

by Dr_Furious on Dec 15, 2011 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

While we wait for news...

What do people think about the actual game experience at the Rogers Center?

I mean I know it’s no Wrigley or Fenway but it really seems like they go out of their way not to make the game experience good. Is there a reason why the lighting is soooo bright (ie on tv you cant tell if the roof is closed or open when its dark out). I really wish it actually felt like night at night games.

Beer prices we all know are a rip but I think the Jays actually have some of the highest prices especially for a team with subpar attendance.

Also the ushers are really strict, I was in the 500s and tried to move closer to some buddies (same ticket prices, lots of empty seats) and the 17 year old usher called his manager when we wouldnt move.

Not trying to rant, I just want to know if other people have similar experiences.

by Dr_Furious on Dec 15, 2011 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

they have become too strct for more liking

i liked them better when they let people move, especially on empty days. i really wished they would lighten up.

I love the dome, looking up and seeing the ladders and staircasses and thinking if was ever up there i would surely have passed out! I love not have to worry about getting soaked with rain in the forecast. I love that it was such a great architectural feat, and its beside one of the other greatest of all time (cn tower….)

I wouldn’t hate if we got a new stadium to play in, but i for damn sure would miss the skydome.

Rent this for cheap!!

by Bowling_Guy25 on Dec 15, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm to young to feel the same awe as most people about how cool of a structure it is.

And I feel like it’s a library when I’m there. I’d prefer something like Miller Park where you have some sunlight and you feel like you’re outside.

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Too young as in, all of the new stadiums these days are pretty epic.

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm only 21

guess just look at things differently
I’ve played baseball most of my life, watched a lot of games. I actually try and get seats where i know there is shade, because 4 hours in plastic seats in the sun, isn’t much fun!

Rent this for cheap!!

by Bowling_Guy25 on Dec 15, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But it just seems everyone's go to statement about the Rogers Centre is:

“I remember when it opened it was so amazing and it blew my mind. It will always be the Skydome in my heart”. I don’t have that feeling.

A day that will live in infamy: August 4th, 2011, Sept. 28, 2011 wasn't bad either.
7 members waiting for Aaron Hill's return...

by jays182 on Dec 15, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess outside of toronto maybe..

when people only go a few times every couple years, or once ever.
I’ve never heard that line.

Rent this for cheap!!

by Bowling_Guy25 on Dec 15, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the Rogers Centre but I hate the parking and traffic.

If I lived in a condo downtown I would go to a lot more games. As it is I live 45 minutes north of the city yet with traffic and parking it takes two hours to and from games, not to mention the cost of gas and parking. Painful.

by B.Leaf on Dec 15, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah to avoid that, I just TTC it up...

We’re lucky in that regard, having union so close.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by outoforder87 on Dec 15, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I drive from London toYorkdale mall then take the subway to Union

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

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