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John Lackey rips John McDonald's performance...instead of, you know, blaming himself?

Thank you age of social media and the internet!

If you needed another reason to dislike John Lackey, you know aside from the fact that he:

- Signed for big money with Boston instead of staying with the Angels

- Is killing your fantasy stats two years running

- or like me, after having met this douche personally,

...then here's one more. Apparently he believes that our very beloved John McDonald is not good enough to hit John Lackey's elusive pitches. Bollocks! For those who have not seen the clip, it's on sportsnet.ca currently and a direct video link is located here:

http://bcove.me/pikjv8jq

Scumbag John Lackey is an appropriate meme if you want to go about creating one. Go Jays Go! The Jays are 3-3 against Boston now (3-0 if you forget about that horrible weekend in April) :).


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Mouth Breather

Watching that video and listening to that tool breath through his mouth is just gross.

"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"

by Bullpen Lurker on May 12, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

However, and believe me, I’m absolutely no fan of Lackey and feel his comment about John McDonald was a symptom of the classless entitled attitude that Boston and NY players tend to carry into Toronto. But the guy’s wife has cancer, he went from a top 20 starter to an overpaid liability in one of the biggest, most intrusive baseball fanbases in the game, and then he gets shelled by a guy with 20 career homeruns. I can at least accept it’s likely more frustration with himself than an actual slur on Johnny Mac.

When the guy is healthy, secure and arrogent, I’m more than happy to watch him get shelled, because he comes off as a mouth-breather in everything that I’ve read. I’m still happy to watch him get shelled now, but I don’t take any joy in the fact that from his perspective, his whole life is going up in flames around him.

by dexfarkin on May 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed, and I don't wish any ill will toward him

but if he’s stressed out, he’s not doing himself any favors by acting so douchy. He’d be better off saying no comment than to cut down those around him. For that, I find it difficult to feel sorry for him.

by REMO on May 12, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t feel sorry for him, but I don’t feel any satisfaction out of a Red Sox player being even more intolerable than usual because of the details around his situation. I’m much happier when I can attribute their failings as people along team lines (Jays! Classy! Bosox! Douchebags!) without having to empathize with them. In Lackey’s case, sadly, I get it enough that ceases to be fun.

by dexfarkin on May 12, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t disagree with that.

by REMO on May 12, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

also to be fair

“Signed for big money with Boston instead of staying with the Angels” is not an appropriate reason to hate someone. wanting more money over less money? would people hate you if you left your job for more pay? (not supposed to be accusatory, just an example)

by benk on May 12, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a fair complaint if you’re an Angels fan, but that’s because there’s an emotional connection there. I often wonder how much players consider the market they’re going into, or do they just consider the money, the structure of the contract, and the team itself? I know if I was a lefty starter posting great numbers in the NL Central, the last thing I’d want to do is go into New York or Boston.

by dexfarkin on May 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh it's reason to dislike a player, sure

but to “hate” them, especially one who never even played for your favourite team?

by benk on May 13, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find actual ‘hate’ for any player difficult to understand. There’s players who’s performance I’ve hated, and who’s actions I’ve depised, and I have tossed around lines like ‘man, I just hate A-Rod’, but that’s not real hate. But I think real hate is a personal thing, and since we really don’t know much about the players off the field, claiming to hate any of them to me smacks of an obsessive and unhealthy fanatism about the game.

I think Joanna had a good observation, going into the SOSH site. Even before the game, people were writing some just viralently obscene anti-Lackey screeds, and most of the attacks were personal.

by dexfarkin on May 13, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hating Lackey is excessive

But despising the members of SOSH for obscene, bigoted, ignorant attitudes and behavior is appropriate.

by IanJ on May 13, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAC ATTACK STRIKES AGAIN

The Mac Attack is COMING!!! and with ur awfulness as a pitcher lackey and j-macs awesomeness he’s gonna tear u a new 1 with everytime u face him!!!

by Jason3000 on May 12, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

He can talk all he wants. the fact is JM owned him tonight and that speaks for itself.

by B-R_O-C on May 12, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm..JMac now has some pretty decent offensive numbers, apart from BABIP. If his BABIP would be average he might even be better option at 2nd than Hill. You know, until Hill starts producing.

by Woodman663 on May 12, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Johnny Mac is our 2nd lowest hitter for avg at the moment

can’t blame Lackey for being upset at giving up big hits to him. But he did it in such a way that was unsportsmanlike. He needs to relax, sit down, and continue sucking for the Sox.

HEADING STRAIGHT FOR THEM, I PRESS DOWN MAH GUNS!

by BenjiDoc on May 12, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

If Johnny Mac hit a homer off me

The interview would be a mixture of ****’s and ****’s with the odd connecting word.

by Mike Andrew on May 13, 2011 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't see it as a big deal.

McDonald is not a good hitter. You can’t deny that. Career OBP of .275, I don’t get the love for this guy. If he’s your starting third baseman, second baseman, shortstop you’re really hurting. He’s good for an occassional start and as a defensive replacement (cough*Encarnacion*cough) but nothing else, and all Lackey said was that he can’t be giving up homers to a bad hitter like that when you’ve got other guys in the lineup that are more concerning.

However, maybe that is just it. He treated him like the pitcher in the NL, throw fastballs for strikes and, for gawds sake, don’t walk him. Occassionally they get lucky, as McDonald did that evening.

by Jason Witte on May 13, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

"I don't get the love for this guy"

I’d like to address this part of your post. I’m sure others could do a better job, but I’ll give it a shot.

1) He’s our guy (we don’t care to see them get disrespected or appear to be disrespected)
2) He’s a team guy. (a bench player, knows his role, and thrives in it)
3) He’s a very good defensive player (a highlight reel all by himself, and we love great defence)
4) He’s just a plain likable guy (the kind you pull for)

Hope this helps.

by Alan F. on May 13, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm down with all that.

It’s just so funny that a guy like that is more popular than, say, a Joe Carter. I’ll bet he’s more popular than Joey Bats. I’ve heard it mentioned before on the radio, but Toronto fans love to cheer for these guys and don’t seem to care for the stars that much. Although, thinking back, Sundin was wildly popular in his day.

I wonder if part of the appeal is that McDonald is like an ‘everyman’, kind of an underdog to make a major league roster. He’s not 6’2 220 pounds and can hit the lights out and has been counted out so often. We all like to see someone like that succeed. Having said that, I would still prefer that he be on the bench. But if he’s on the bench, than I guess Nix would be starting. Is that any better? Lawrie can’t get here soon enough.

by Jason Witte on May 13, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's so much the 'everyman' that Toronto fans seem to cheer for

But players that visibly try hard. Seeing a player put in effort seems to make them fan favourites in TO. Even on the Leafs, everyone loved that time Brent blocked like 4 shots in a row. Raptor fans love Reggie Evans, who rebounds like crazy.
We always hear about Mcdonald working so hard, and being prepared for every game and it makes me happy for him when he has success.

by Nadia on May 16, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody hates John Macdonald

but he has his role for a reason. Career BA of .275 would be nice but OB? Really? (I’m trusting that the stat is true)

by Mike Andrew on May 14, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw it on sportsnet...

… and could hardly believe it. Mac seems like the nicest guy in the league, to say something like that about a classy, humble, hard working, seasoned vetran near the end of their career is just rude.

It’s one thing to take a shot at a guy with a big mouth, or someone who’s had a lot of success, but to go after a career role player to for no reason is trashy. I thought it was bad when A-Rod went after, was it Braden? And he had a reason….

by Sivvi on May 18, 2011 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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