Minor League Notes - 27th of June MiLB action
by Woodman663 on Jun 28, 2011 11:32 AM EDT
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PrintLas Vegas (lost 5-19)
Las Vegas pitchers gave up 19 runs and Kyle Drabek wasn't even pitching! Reidier Gonzalez gave up 10 runs in three innings, but B.J. LaMura definitely outdid him by giving up 8 in just a single inning.
On the other hand, catcher Ryan Budde pitched a scoreless eigth, giving up a hit and a walk but striking out two. And outfielder Danny Perales pitched a scorelss ninth, with one hit allowed but no walks and a strikeout.
Mike McCoy was probably needed in the infield, so he didn't pitch, but he did hit his first AAA home run of the year. I still think he should be given another shot as relief pitcher, since we're not contending anyway. Mike McCoy >>>> Jayson Nix. Oh, David Cooper went 3-for-4, but that's not unusual at all.
New Hampshire (lost 4-6)
Sorry Henderson, but walking three and striking out two in 5 1/3 innings is not going to make me believe in you. Kyle Drabek has shown that location matters just as much as having good stuff, even though the scouts are more in love with stuff than location. Alvarez gave up 3 runs on 7 hits.
The position players had a very boring game, nobody had a particularly good or bad night. Gose had a bunt single, going 2-for-4 with a strikeout, does that count as noteworthy?
Dunedin (lost 1-3)
Deck McGuire is still out until the weekend after he was hit on the shin in his last start, so the not-so-impressive Ryan Shopshire took over and...didn't impress. Way-too-old-for-this-level Dumas Garcia struck out five in 2 1/3 innings.
Justin Jackson has broken out of his recent slump a bit, he went 1-for-3 with a walk. He's hit just .207/.281/.264 in June, but has done well since the All-star break. Perhaps he just needed a rest. Sean Ochinko was 2-for-4 and is hitting .288/.348/.625. Nice slugging percentage, Sean!
Lansing (lost 2-9)
Danny Barnes was a relatively interesting reliever because of his high strikeout rate. Now, he might become an interesting starter because of his high strikeout rate. He went 3 2/3 innings, striking out six and walking none, but giving up 2 runs. Will he be stretched out or was it a spot start?
The Lugnuts hitters seemed to have taken the day off, especially Marcus Knecht, who collected the golden sombrero by striking out 4 times in as many at bats. Markus Brisker just missed the sombrero, falling one strikeout short.
Vancouver (won 8-5)
Jon Berti was 3-for-4 and is now hitting .407/.529/.593 over eight games with 6 walks and 4 strikeouts. Seems pretty good to me, how about moving him to Lansing?
Roan Salas was 4-for-4 with a double, but he has 0 walks and 8 strikeouts. Not that strange for a 19 year old, but then Salas is 21. No excuses there.
Bluefield (won 10-6)
David Rollins is a bit old for this level at 21, but it's hard to argue with 10 strikeouts, 1 walk and 1 run given up in your first 10 2/3 professional innings. Should see time in Vancouver soon, I guess.
Art Charles has 1 walk and 13 strikeouts so far, which is not good. But then he has four homers and is hitting .313/.333/.844. He's 20 years old, so he has some work to do (obviously not in the power department).
GCL Jays (lost 4-6)
Zak Adams was much better in his second appearance, going 4 2/3 innings with 6 strikeouts and 4 walks, 2 runs given up. The wildness is obviously a problem. Adonys Cardona was kept on a short leash, going just 2 1/3 innings and giving up 4 runs, but then he struck out 3, walked none, and got groundballs, so he was probably just unlucky.
Santiago Nessy is 18 year old and in his first season in the U.S. He plays the catcher position. He's hitting .368/.429/.684 in just 5 games. I can smell the hype machine lurking around the corner.
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You lumped Purcey and Drabek together?
Ouch
I think you'll find I'm universally recognised as a mature and responsible adult.
Twitter is the thing with all the tweets...
Drabek is still only 23, it’s not fair to judge him compared to Purcey who I believe was about 26/27 when he first reached the majors. Plus, Purcey never had the secondary pitches that Drabek has nor the good two-seam fastball either. Also you can’t call anybody the next Kyle Drabek when we still have no idea what he will become. I get the Purcey, Carmona and Romero comps but it’s still too early for Drabek.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
You're totally right
there’s never been a pitcher who was rushed through the minors and walked as many batters as he struck out in his first full season who went on to become a useful starter. oh wait.
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
nowhere did I say Drabek is never going to be good.
But to expect him to make a Halladay-like turnaround would be somewhat similar to expecting Jayson Nix to become the next Jose Bautista.
the category was
“The new David Purcey/Kyle Drabek”
By the way, I never said anything about Halladay. I said that pitchers who get rushed through the minors and end up walking too many in their first big league season often still become useful starters.
Furthermore, expecting Drabek to become a frontline starter is not at all similar to expecting Jayson Nix to become a useful player (let alone Jose Bautista).
Drabek is a 23 year old starter who has been praised throughout his professional (and even towards the end of his amateur) career for his raw tools; as such, he’s been projected to be a front of the rotation starter by many scouts, many of whom thought he would be a candidate for 2011 Rookie of the Year. He’s pitched roughly 1/2 a season’s worth of innings at MLB and been replacement-level at an age where most starters are still in AA.
Jayson Nix was a sandwich pick who rose fairly quickly through the low minors but had to repeat AA and repeated AAA twice before finally making it to the majors in 2008. It is now 2011 and he has accumulated 870 plate appearances at a level only slightly higher than replacement-level and strikes out 3-4 times as frequently as he walks.
It was ridiculous when you compared Drabek to Purcey and is even more ridiculous that you’re now comparing him to Nix. We talk about reading too much into small samples a lot here. Kyle Drabek had a rough half-season, maybe let him pitch a bit more before anointing him the next David Purcey or the pitching version of Jayson Nix.
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
Well certainly comparing Nix to Drabek is apples and oranges...
But I was simply looking for an example of a pitcher who didn’t struggle with walks much in his minor league career but also didn’t strike out many despite having good stuff. Drabek 2010 is the best I could come up with. There’s no need to point out what you point out because I know Drabek can still turn it around. However, at this point he was pitching like a right-handed Purcey.
Dustin McGowan
Ken Fidlin from the Sun reported that McGowan’s MRI on his arm was negative. Hopefully it was just some pain from being stretched out. The good news was that the discomfort was in his forearm and not his repaired shoulder.
by Al Bundy is my hero on Jun 28, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
I love your updates, but this one was pretty depressing, yes.. I could picture Eeyore having a ‘fun’ time reading this one out loud.
Well... He WAS positive Re: McCoy...
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
Art Charles.
When he was drafted, they had him listed as LHP (still listed as such).
Yes he is.
Guess he opted to play the field instead of pitching.
Question Mr. Woodman.
Where is Samuel Dyson? We signed him at the deadline last year. I know he played in the college world series and wouldn’t play til this year, but I don’t even see him listed on any team.
Okay, thanks
That’s a drag. Remember hearing some good things about him.
Is the new Fausto Carmona supposed to be a good thing or bad thing?
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson
It depends
on whether you’re talking about 2007 Carmona or any other year Carmona.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
Hopefully the 2007 Carmona :S
Weren’t we rumored to have been watching Carmona last year?
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson
by Joseph Kirby on Jun 28, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Weren’t we rumored to have been watching [Insert any player’s name here] last year?
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
aha..true.
"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson
by Joseph Kirby on Jun 28, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So far Santiago Nessy is doing pretty good with the bat, i thought
he was going to struggle like Gustavo Pierre but he is doing fine albeit only 5 games. Though i do notice in the boxscore that the ppl on base are running wild against him. Does anyone know the CS stats or his reputation on defence.
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