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Brett Cecil Loses First Game Back

Nice to see you back Brett, I hope the team plays better for you next time.  (Photo by Brad White/Getty Images)

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I didn't think Brett Cecil looked that bad but he could have used some help from his fielder. Jose Bautista and Corey Patterson had one fall that either could have caught. I thought it was close enough to third that it should have been Jose's ball, but outfielders can call off infielders. That miss opened things up for a 3 run inning. Rajai Davis messed one up in CF too, costing Brett another run. 

In all Brett gave up 8 hits, 6 earned, 3 walks with 6 strikeouts. He pitched well enough to get into the 7th inning. With a little help it would have been a much better day. Octavio Dotel took over for him with 1 on and 1 out in the 7th and let the inherited runner score. Marc Rzepczynski and Shawn Camp pitched a perfect inning each to close out the game.

All our offense came on 2 swings of the bat in the 5th. J.P. Arencibia and Yunel Escobar (I loved the smile on his face after he hit it) each hit a solo homer. We had 6 hits, Yunel had 3 of them and 1 of our 2 walks. Aaron Hill hit a triple in the 9th. 

Yunel (.226 WPA)was the Jay of the Day. Suckage numbers go to Cecil (-.311, not all his fault) and Lind (-.146, though he hit the ball hard twice). 

Yunel had a strange moment trying to turn a DP. The runner from first (Matt Diaz) came in hard and Yunel dropped to side arm, I think to slow Diaz, but didn't throw. Diaz slide in hard, with one leg high. They played together in Atlanta, I'm taking it for granted they weren't the bet of friends. 

Tomorrow, Canada Day, we start a series with the Phillies, this year we are having the home games in Toronto, not Philadelphia. That cost me a lot of driving last year. 

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What is that pitch he is throwing?

Is it a knuckle curve?

Happiness is a long walk with a putter.

by craig in calgary on Jun 30, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Mills should be up not Cecil

Hate to tell you but Brett Cecil is way too overrated and inconsistent. You Jays fans dont see that their is actually a better pitcher preforming way better than Cecil down in Vegas…I actually track all the minor league levels and Cecil is far from the best prospect to bring up. You probably have forgotten about him..Let me introduce you to Mr. Brad Mills. WHy dont you look at the numbers between the two of them and you will see that Cecil did nothing while down at AAA yet Mills has consistently put up great numbers all year . Please get over yourself and thinking Cecil is this great pitcher…he just gets appreciation bc you uses twitter than

by Kennedy76ca on Jun 30, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Not saying hes not trolling..

But this is in all of 30 IP in the Major Leagues..

"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson

by Joseph Kirby on Jun 30, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes, i know

but since he’s arguing that mills is better than cecil based on a small sample, i don’t see why I can’t argue using small(er) sample

Choose me, Ash!

by Pikachu on Jun 30, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try reading..I was talking about this year’s numbers in Vegas. Either way Cecil will be demoted and ill be happy again never to hear from him or about his stupid kid again

by Kennedy76ca on Jul 1, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

go to milb.com

try comparing both of them to the same competition in Vegas. The numbers don’t even compare but I guess the Jays want someone that can have an 5+era with lots of BB
and .5K per inning instead of a pitcher with a 3.72 ERA and about a K per inning and 4:1 K to BB ratio. This is why the Jays will never contend for a wild card or division bc the Jays are too loyal to suck ass mediocre pitchers

by Kennedy76ca on Jul 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see how they are being loyal to suck ass mediocre pitchers

i mean, look at mills. He’s still in vegas

Choose me, Ash!

by Pikachu on Jul 2, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dropped ball on Jose

With the outfielder comming in the rule in baseball is that if they call it, it’s theirs. Weither Jose is at 3rd or RF he knows this rule and should have given way to Patterson as soons as he called it. You can see on the replay Corey calling it and Jose still tracking the ball.

by Al Bundy is my hero on Jun 30, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Pop up down the 3rd base line in fair teritory in mid to shallow field. Jose and Corey both went after the ball and both could have easily caught it on their own. You could see on the replay both players calling for the ball and at the last moment Jose ducked and blocked Patterson from being able to make a play on the ball. Neither player contacted the ball as it hit the turf behind Jose and went for a double by Overbay. Escobar picked up the bal and tried to gun out Overbay at second but threw it away for the only error on the play. Overbay ended up at 3rd.

by Al Bundy is my hero on Jun 30, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Las Vegas Report..

Facing Colorado Springs Sky Sox (Rockies Triple-A affiliate and Mike McCoy’s former team)

Kevin Howard has the lone hit for the 51’s, Jason Lane and Brian Jeroloman have both drawn walks. Brad Emaus is playing for the Sky Sox and is 0-2 but he is batting .309 this year.

Kyle Drabek’s Line…suprisingly not sucky..so far.

3.2 IP, 3 H, 2 SO

"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson

by Joseph Kirby on Jun 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Las Vegas Report..

2-1 Win Over Colorado Springs Sky Sox (Rockies Triple-A Affiliate)

-Mike McCoy: 0-3, 2 SO, .315
-David Cooper: 1-4, 1 RBI, 2B, 1 SO, .382
-Travis Snider: 0-3, BB, .319
-Adam Loewen: 0-4, 2 SO, .312
-Kevin Howard: 1-4, CS, .339
-Chris Woodward: 1-4, 1 R, RBI, HR, .283
-Jason Lane: 0-2, BB, 2 SO, .258
-Brian Jeroloman: 1-2, BB, .235

-Kyle Drabek: 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 SO
A much better start then any of his another ones in Triple-A in his short stint down there this year, and also getting his ERA to a respectable<code> 8.44

-Sean Henn: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 1 SO

-Danny Farquhar: 1.1 IP, SO, ERA down to 3.62
If anyone goes down in our bullpen I could easily see Farquhar as the man called up to fill in, I had a nice smile when I was no baserunners, a good outing here for Danny against a very good Triple-A lineup with batters such as: Willy Taveras, Dexter Fowler, Ian Stewart, Mike Jacobs, Brad Emaus,and Alfredo Amezega.

"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson

by Joseph Kirby on Jul 1, 2011 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Ouch...sarcasm font fail.

"A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives." - Jackie Robinson

by Joseph Kirby on Jul 1, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

One walk was intentional

6 Ks to 2 walks sounds better than 6/3.

by Woodman663 on Jul 1, 2011 5:53 AM EDT reply actions  

plus the whole "earned run" fiasco

not really a particularly bad start for Cecil. 7 IP/4 ER isn’t so bad, and he was hitting 93 on the gun so I think he can build on it

by benk on Jul 1, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

At what point does the team say enough is enough?

Last night – Patterson/Bautista mess on a pop up – Davis wild throw – and Thames lost at sea route on fly ball – cost the Jays the game.

Rivera/Patterson/Encarnacion – defensively – may just be some of the worst defensive players in all of MLB. Offensively – they also stink.

It is embarassing to watch.

Currently – with the exception of Davis – we do not have any bona fide defensive MLB outfielders on the team. And it is costing games.

Misplayed fly balls – bad routes – bad throws – laziness – just as ugly as it gets.

Put anyone else in there – anyone – just get these guys off the field please.

by bobo121212 on Jul 1, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

we lost by 4, dude

one run did not lose us the game. this is a horrible comment.

by benk on Jul 1, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm ...

Snider is a plus defender (you can expect him up soon). Patterson is at worst an average defender, and statistically a little above average. Bautista is … well, he is Bautista. He could be a brick in the outfield and still hold a ton of value (he is a bit below average, but he more then makes that up).

EE is meant to only play DH, and he has been very good offensively when he does this

I’m not sure where you get that Davis is a “bona fide” fielder but dismiss Patterson. Patterson has had significantly better numbers over the past couple years in the OF then Davis. Sure, Patterson has some gaffes out there, but individual plays do not define the capability of the player.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jul 1, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you serious bro?

do you even watch the games?

by benk on Jul 1, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

metrics (all of them) disagree with you

they call him average or better (this year’s data is way too small to use)

by benk on Jul 1, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on last season

Isn’t it more likely that his metrics last season was the outiler?

Choose me, Ash!

by Pikachu on Jul 2, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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