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The Amateur Draft: how it works, and a bit of Jays draft history

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Every year fans and experts alike make predictions on which player will be selected by which team in the yearly MLB Amateur Draft, also known as the Rule 4 Draft. Every year, most of those guesses are wrong, which makes following the draft that much more exciting. Like in other years, the place to be on the day of the MLB Draft 2011 is right here on Bluebird Banter. In addition to previewing the draft, we will have an Open Draft Discussion thread where all of us excited Jays fans can discuss who we want to fall to the number 21 pick, and who we do not want. We'll laugh at some other team's selections, thinking that we know better than their scouting departments, and we'll be frustrated when another team snatches our favorite player away before the Jays could select him. Last year hugo and Tom were talking about how much they didn't like Transformers 2, so perhaps Transformers 3 will be featured in today's draft thread as well?

So how does this work then, you ask? Well, first of all, only players from Canada, the U.S. and U.S. territories (like Puerto Rico) are eligible. Players from other baseball areas like Venezuela, the Dominican Republic and Cuba are signed as international free agents. So while the draft is not the only way to get young talent, it is a very important one. The Draft will begin at 7:00 PM Eastern Time, following a pre-game show on MLB Network. Only the first round, consisting of 60 picks, will be finished today. Rounds 2-30 will be done on Tuesday starting at 11:00 AM Eastern, followed by rounds 31-50 on Wednesday, also starting at 11:00 AM. Toronto will pick first when the 21st overall pick comes around, and again at 35, 46, 53, 57, 74 and 78 in the first two rounds. After that, the Jays will have one pick per round. You can find the complete draft order here.

The reason the Jays have so many picks is because Major League Baseball compensates teams who lose players to free agency, depending on the quality of the player as estimated by Elias Sports Bureau. The loss of Scott Downs, a type A (highest class of players) free agent, has been compensated for with the number 35 and number 74 picks. John Buck and Kevin Gregg, who had both joined the team on one-year contracts, account for two of the 46/53/57 picks. Miguel Olivo was shrewdly acquired by Blue Jays General Manager Alex Anthopoulos in a trade, and because he rejected the Jays' arbitration offer the Jays received another compensation draft pick.

If the Jays select a player with one of their draft picks, they have until August the 15th to get him to sign a contract. If the player doesn't sign by then, the Jays will receive a compensation pick in the 2012 MLB Draft. However, that draft pick in 2012 would then be "unprotected", meaning they would not receive a 2013 draft pick in compensation if they failed to sign the player they selected with their compensation pick. This year, none of the Jays' picks are unprotected, so they can take all kinds of risks in the first three rounds. Picks made after the first three rounds are always unprotected. There's also a thing called "slot", which means the MLB has set a recommended amount as maximum signing bonus for draft picks (the lower the pick, the lower the recommended signing bonus). However, the Jays are very likely to completely ignore that recommendation and spend big. They are rumoured to have prepared to spend $20 million on the draft, up from around $11 million last year.

Some recent Jays draft history below the jump.

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2010 Blue Jays Draft

Like this year, the Jays had a lot of extra picks in the first few rounds of the 2010 Draft. The Jays' first pick, Deck McGuire, received very mixed reviews as most Bluebird Banterers in the Draft Thread wanted Chris Sale, who would go to the White Sox. Later in the first three rounds the Jays would also select Aaron Sanchez (HS P), Noah Syndergaard (HS P), Asher Wojciechowski (College P), Griffin Murphy (HS P), Kellen Sweeney (HS 3B), Justin Nicolino (HS P), Chris Hawkins (HS 3B), Marcus Knecht (JC LF). It's far too early to tell how these picks will pan out, but Marcus Knecht has been tearing it up in Lansing so far and looks like a good 3rd round pick.

2009 Blue Jays Draft

The reason for many of the extra picks in 2010 was the failure of the Jays to sign many of their 2009 selections. 1st rounder Chad Jenkins has not moved as quickly as many would have hoped, but the potential of 3rd rounder Jake Marisnick, a center fielder, could save this draft. Drew Hutchison, a 15th rounder from high school, has done very well so far and Ryan Goins (4th), K.C. Hobson (6th), Egan Smith (7th), Bryson Namba (12th) and Daniel Webb (18th) can't be written off yet.

2008 Blue Jays Draft

This is not a draft that Jays fans would like to see repeated. In the first three rounds David Cooper, Kenny Wilson and Andrew Liebel were picked, and only Cooper has a small chance to become a big league regular. Eric Thames (7th), A.J. Jimenez (9th) and Michael Crouse (16th) could save this draft for the Jays. Tyler Pastornicky, the Jays' fifth pick, was part of the trade that brought Yunel Escobar to Toronto.

2007 Blue Jays Draft

This was another draft with a lot of picks for the Jays. Their first pick, Kevin Ahrens, doesn't seem like he'll ever be a big leaguer, and neither does John Tolisano (2nd round). Eric Eiland, also a second rounder, has already been released after not hitting at all. J.P. Arencibia and Brett Cecil, both 1st rounders and both selected out of college, seem like good picks at the moment, and their last fellow first rounder Justin Jackson is finally figuring out how that "hitting" thing works over in Dunedin. Marc Rzepczynski (5th) is already a solid contributor, but Brad Mills (4th), Brad Emaus (11th) and Darin Mastroianni (16th) have followed the path of being projected as big leaguer by us fans, only to never get a (real) chance to prove themselves at the highest level.

2006 Blue Jays Draft

This draft yielded Travis Snider, and .... well, basically just that. Brian Jeroloman (6th round) is still in the system, but this is a draft we probably want to forget. Of course, there's still hope our beloved Moonraker turns into a very good hitter.

2005 Blue Jays Draft

Much like the 2006 version, the 2005 MLB Draft delivered us just one player of value: first-rounder Ricky Romero. In the 41st round the Jays selected Brett Wallace, but didn't get him to sign.

2004 Blue Jays Draft

The first four picks of this draft - Zach Jackson, David Purcey, Curtis Thigpen and Danny Hill - didn't work out, but 3rd rounder Adam Lind certainly has. Casey Janssen was drafted in the 4th, and Jesse Litsch has been much better than the average 24th rounder, I imagine.

Other draft picks

Aaron Hill (2003 1st round), Shaun Marcum (2003 3rd round) and Dustin McGowan (2000 1st round) are some of the few other draft picks by the Jays that have succeeded. With the Jays selecting a lot of college players, they didn't get much value out of their later round selections.

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Looking forward to see who the Jays will select.

AA has had his full team (last year he was just getting it all in place) in place for this one and it’s said to be a deep draft, so this could be a really nice haul for us.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Another great piece, by the way!

Thanks for your time and effort Woodman!

I don't steal when Jose Bautista is at bat.

by Minor Leaguer on Jun 6, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s nice ot know that the effort is appreciated. :)

by Woodman663 on Jun 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ughh I hate typos. Should be to* know of course.

by Woodman663 on Jun 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good job.

But it’s kind of depressing as that’s a lot of suck in the Jays drafting during the JPR era.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 6, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh definitely!

Thanks in particular for the concise explanation of the draft system. For someone like me it’s one of those completely foreign concepts.

"They had players who had more hair on their backs than on their heads. Obviously they have more experience," Thomas Müller of Bayern Munich after losing against Inter Milan.

by hansdampf on Jun 6, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add me to the list of appreciating your effort sir.

Have followed the draft for years, and love reading up on the possibilities of the drafties.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

seconded, this was great. :D
I’m really looking forward to the draft, this is the first year I’ve really understood how it works. :)

by leaflover4ever on Jun 6, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thirded

The whole process is a lot clearer to me now. Thanks!

by durga2112 on Jun 6, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow I missed that whole first paragraph.

I guess we are then!

I don't steal when Jose Bautista is at bat.

by Minor Leaguer on Jun 6, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Jays is going to spend around or a little more than last year figure at

$11 mil, and i don’t see in any way the Jays or for matter of fact any other team will spend $20 mil. I mean even for the team with the 1st overall pick and spend 10 mil on the player, i dont think see how they would spend another 10 mil on the rest of the players. Though i would be really happy to see the Jays spend $12+ mil with their first round pick in the 20s and not the top 5.

btw Woodman great job on these draft stuff and yea do you know what is the highest draft spending of all time

by noname3 on Jun 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

$11.927 million by the Nats last year, I’m pretty sure.

by Woodman663 on Jun 6, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone taking any guesses,

as to who we might select with our first pick?

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

A lot depends on who falls

I think the Jays board could look something like this:

1 – Jed Bradley
2 – Daniel Norris
3 – Taylor Guerrieri
4 – Mikie Mahtook
5 – Kolten Wong
6 – Levi Michael
7 – Andrew Chafin

Those are all guys they are linked to. But then it could be completely different.

by Woodman663 on Jun 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of that list

I could maybe see Mahtook getting as far as our spot (and possibly selected), but not the first three. Reading on Guerrieri, he would be an interesting pick. 5-7, I would say no way.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they take Bell at 21 if he’s still around, I really like his bat and don’t see him falling to 35, though Norris or Swihart would be really nice too.

If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else

by jaysfan100 on Jun 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

So you like the expensive guys? ;)

I think AA might go for reasonably priced prospects early, so he can divide his money over a whole bunch of over-slot picks.

by Woodman663 on Jun 6, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would rather spend majority (like 7-10 mill) of our cash in the first 6-8 picks and hope we get lucky once or twice latter on in the draft

If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else

by jaysfan100 on Jun 6, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

though it’s true that Bell and Swihart are very pricy Norris isn’t so much.

If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else

by jaysfan100 on Jun 6, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

3.9 million is a lot!

by Woodman663 on Jun 6, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is

But with the budget we supposedly have and the price tags of other players, it’s not overly pricy

If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else

by jaysfan100 on Jun 6, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bell is the one I've liked for a while.

It’ll be tough to get him out of his commitment though.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That 3.9 is for Norris

Bell will most likely cost much more (NEAR 5+ MILLION)

If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else

by jaysfan100 on Jun 6, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I could see AA doing that

I believe he’ll command top 5 money, but I also don’t think he’ll be around by the time we select.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just reading about this Norris kid

Left handed highschooler who already can hit 96 MPH?
Yes please.

...and make sure you vote for Jose

by craig in calgary on Jun 6, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be nice.

Baseball America has him ranked at #16, and MLB has him ranked at #15.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gobroks over at MLBBB put this out earlier. He has us taking Norris at 21.

If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else

by jaysfan100 on Jun 6, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Just checked out his mock draft.

Don’t like his predictions at all. Besides that he called us the Nationals in the S1 round.

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at that list of names saddens me

Not too many hits there. No wonder our system was ranked poorly until this year. And it looks like our premier prospects came in trades. Hopefully last draft and this one are a lot stronger than in the past, More than any other sport though it’s a giant crapshoot

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jun 6, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Watching the MLB pre draft show

Not bad… Now I know where Hazel May ended.

One thing that made me laugh yesterday was listening to Wilner’s post game show and some guy brought up Gretzky’s kid. The caller wouldn’t let it go even though Gretzky’s kid weren’t amazing for high school.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 6, 2011 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

im excited for tonight! i think we have some great prospects and am looking forward to adding some more

by eaglesinmd on Jun 6, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Please please please, let Archie Bradley fall!

by Sniderlover on Jun 6, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

really hope he falls, but even if he fall there are still teams with huge budget ahead of us

by noname3 on Jun 6, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brien Taylor I remember

he was the big hope for the Yankees, but he burned out quick

by Tom Dakers on Jun 6, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad really when he wrecked his shoulder in a fight

Not mentioned; He was also one of Boras’ first clients.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 6, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but that was when the Yanks sucked

Those were great years… 88-92 when the Yanks were just bloody awful.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 6, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, he sure is an athlete, probably the only concern is the hit tool

by noname3 on Jun 6, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’ll probably fix that if needed (I just think he’s that kind of kid).

by Alan F. on Jun 6, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bubba?

My buddy just texted me:

.481 BA in baseball
31 TD’s and 3,800 yards in football
28.3 PPG in basketball.

Wowza.

...and make sure you vote for Jose

by craig in calgary on Jun 6, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say that it appears that we have not looked strong with our drafting system in the 10 years previous to last year.

by Joey P on Jun 6, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m liking that the game doesn’t start until 8 tonight, gets a few draft picks in before the game

Also tonight that is big for me.

My Bruins (Not looking good)
Blue Jay game
E3 gaming conference (Nintendo goes tomorrow)
And of course, the baseball draft

by Joey P on Jun 6, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I know, the new Wii gets announced tomorrow, everything is going down this week.

by Joey P on Jun 6, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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