Adam Lind and J.P. Arencibia Homer: Jays Beat Royals
by Tom Dakers on Jun 7, 2011 11:56 PM EDT
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A better game for Kyle Drabek, considering he only got 2 outs in his last start, but not a good start. He walked only 3, but gave up 9 hits and 5 earned in 5.1 innings. He helped himself out with a barehanded grab on bouncer over his head, and turned what could have been a single into a double play in the first inning. That was a big play. He got the win.
Luis Perez was terrific in relief, pitching 2.2 innings, giving up 2 hits and a walk, with 4 strikeouts. He did allow the runner he inherited from Drabek to score, but after that he was great. Jon Rauch got a easy save, getting 3 quick outs in the 9th.
On offense, Adam Lind hit a 2 run homer in the 1st and drove in 3 on the day. J.P. Arencibia hit a 2 run home off former Jay prospect Tim Collins. Collins looked good when batters chased, but not so good when they didn't. As well as the homer, he walked 2 while getting 3 outs. Throws hard though. I think the Royals are rushing him a bit, getting him to the majors already.
Yunel Escobar started the game off with a single, stole 2nd, went to third when Royals catcher Matt Treanor threw the ball into center, then scored when Melky Cabrera threw wild to 3rd. A great way to start the game. That wasn't the only fun to be had while watching the Royals defense. Cabrera and Jeff Francoeur watched a Edwin Encarnacion fly ball fall between them, giving EE a double. Well, giving might be part the wrong term, it was good that EE was running it out. And, in the 5th, with Mike McCoy on 2nd, Corey Patterson put down a not great bunt, but the Royal's pitcher tried to get McCoy at 3rd. The throw was late and McCoy was safe. It the other team bunts, they are trying to give you an out, you should take it.
Jayson Nix had 2 hits, all the other batters had 1 expect Patterson (0 for 4, with a strikeout) and Rajai Davis (0 for 3, he didn't look good at the plate)
Jays of the Day are JP (.143 WPA), Perez (.122) and Lind (.113). No one had Suckage numbers.
Yunel Escobar came out of the game with 'quad tightness' (prompting bad jokes and another picture of Carm and a quad in the game thread). Mike McCoy came in to replace him and looked ok in the field and hit a RBI double over Alex Gordon in LF. Gordon didn't exactly take the best route to the ball. Hopefully Yunel's injury isn't serious.
Tomorrow Carlos Villanueva (3-0, 2.72) gets to face the Royals. Danny Duffy (0-1, 4.43) starts for Kansas City. 8:00 Eastern.
Great game thread today, the win helped I'm sure.
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Good win.
I like Arencibia hitting behind Lind. He has been putting in some good AB’s lately.
With all the concern about 3B ...
… shouldn’t we be worrying about the OF also? Davis just doesn’t seem to be very good.
(JPA for ROY!)
by Defense Counts! on Jun 8, 2011 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
Davis
has a 97 wRC+ (almost exactly MLB average, and likely a little above for a CF) though defensive metrics rate him poorly for some reason. that’s not likely to continue as he’s basically average in CF defensively for his career. Davis is a perfectly adequate short-term solution at centre while we hope Gose pans out.
That's what they called me in college
perfectly adequate
by ColMustard on Jun 8, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have to say, I’m skeptical about this. First, when judging a player’s current ability, clearly recent stats are more important than those from several years ago. According to ADR, he was below average defensively last year. Second, just from observation, there often seems to be some deficiency. For example, yesterday he was lackadaisical fielding a hit, and the hitter stretched what should’ve been a single into a double. And he often takes poor routes to get to a ball. His speed usually allows him to catch up, but this does not change the fact that this is a defensive deficiency.
my problem with what you're saying
is confirmation bias. my problem with the first point is that how is it likely that a player goes from well above average (+6 runs) to well below (-6 runs) in one season besides random variation? it’s well documented that defensive stats don’t stabilize for at least a couple seasons, so I’m reasonably confident that he’s about average or slightly better in centre (especially since more than one metric feels the same way)
Well, if we were talking about coins, then I would certainly agree with you. But we are talking about people, whose abilities clearly vary with time. Apart from injury, is it likely that a player’s ability could go from +6 to -6 in one year? No. So random variation clearly plays a role. Is it the whole story? Dunno. So that’s why I would combine observation with stats. It’s understood that observation has its limitations, but I wouldn’t exclude it entirely (even if we place more emphasis on the stats).
well to me
he’s actually looked pretty good in the field; he’s made some outstanding catches. now we have: historical data telling us he’s decent + recent, sample-size-problem-filled data telling us he’s a little below average + the potential of his ankle injury early this year hurting his numbers + one anecdatum calling him below average + one anecdatum calling him above.
basically – we have no idea.
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by JohnnyG on Jun 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Put up a poll!
Screw stats! The only way to settle this is by popular opinion!
by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jun 8, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does the caption say McCoy reached third on a single by Patterson...
But the article says Patterson was 0 for 4? Was it a bunt single, or a fielders choice?
Lind doesn't seem to do well in the DH hole
I’d love to see him at first every game game because of his defense and the offensive contribution that follow’s. At the same time I want to have him for the rest of the season and I know he has to be eased into it.
I’m also a little confused as to why Drabek’s bullpens are so good but when he get’s out there his control seems to waver. I don’t know if it’s a mental thing but I really hope he’s able to control his emotions and work it out this season. If he can’t it may be a sign that he isn’t mature enough to be in the bigs.
Maybe, maybe not
He’s only had 11 AB’s as the DH thus far, though.
I’d have to imagine the majority of players would hit better as a position player simply because they’re warm the whole game instead of sitting for a while then getting up to hit. I have nothing to support that though.
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11 AB as the DH this year. Last year he was primarily a DH and did not have a good year. I’m not saying that Lind is 100% adversely affected by being the DH, but there is some evidence to that it may be the case beyond the small sample this year.
Lind was pretty good as the DH in 2009, wasn’t he? I know he split time between LF and DH, but I’m pretty sure he won the silver slugger award as a DH that year…(for what that’s worth).
by masterkembo on Jun 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the team certainly believes so
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Cecil
When is he going to be called up? Sooner rather then later?
If Carlos performs well in this start, do they send down Drabek for him?
or if he performs poorly, do they shove him back in the pen?
So far in AAA he has an ERA above 5 and a whip of 1.44.
Sure hes 7-1 but its amazing what happens when run support is at a premium.
but its the PCL
I think he’s had two games in a row with his velocity back up, i don’t know about last night.
Wonder how many more games it will take
by bowling_kid25 on Jun 8, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Last night he got crushed
3.1IP, 10H, 8ER, 1BB, 3K, 2HR
No idea on velocity or control in the game though, so he may have been pitching well but just got Vegas-ed.
by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jun 8, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
This is definitely more like it
I rather enjoyed Rauch’s easy 1-2-3 9th inning on the drive home last night.
I missed those.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jun 8, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions
Interesting
I just notice Rajai Davis already had 18 stolen bases which is one more than Fred Lewis who was our stolen base leader last year. yay.
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