Jose Bautista Hits Homer Off Roy Halladay but Jays Lose to Phillies

by Tom Dakers on Jul 2, 2011 4:31 PM EDT in Toronto Blue Jays Game Recaps

The day started nice enough. A full house gave Roy Halladay a long long standing ovation. It all went to hell at the end.

The good news is that we got some runs against Doc. Jose Bautista hit a bomb off him, straight to CF. We got 2 more runs in the 5. Corey Patterson beat out a infield single and went to third on a Chase Utley throwing error. After a Rajai Davis strikeout, John McDonald singled, scoring Patterson. A hit and run ground out for Aaron Hill moved Mac to second and Eric Thames singled to drive him home.

Thames and Mac had two hits each. Bautista had the homer. Hill, Arencibia and Davis had 0 fors.

Carlos Villanueva had a good start too. He went 6.2, gave up 5 hits, 4 walks with 3 strikeouts. He left the game with a lead but Luis Perez took over for him with a runner on first and hung a curve to Chase Utley and he hit a home run and that got Perez the loss.

Jays of the Day? Villanueva (.127 WPA) got the number. I'm going to give one each to Mac, Thames and Bautista as well. I figure if you get two hits or a homer against Halladay you deserve a JoD. Suckage numbers go to Perez (-.334, just one bad pitch but it was at the wrong time), JP (-.131), Hill (-.120) and Davis (-.116 and on defense a fly ball that went over his head that I thought he should have caught).

The Jays had disagreements with plate umpire Alfonso Marquez' strike zone all day long. Bautista, Hill, JP and others didn't enjoy some strike calls. JP also talked to Alfonso a few times when he was catching. It was pretty clear that Doc was getting strike calls that our pitchers weren't getting.

It came to a head in the 9th with Jon Rauch pitching. Rauch threw two pitches to Shane Victorino that he felt were good enough to be strike 3 (one that was clearly a strike), then had gave up a single to left that Chase Utley just beat the tag at the plate on. Rauch went off in Alfonso's face and was quickly ejected. John Farrell tried his best to keep Rauch away from Marquez but he give up 6 inches and 80 pounds on the guy.

Then Farrell continued the argument and got ejected. That's the maddest I've seen Farrell, but what really got me was Farrell was arguing from a bit of a distance and Marquez got into his face. There is no way a umpire should be getting in the face of a coach or player. The players are allowed to be upset, an umpire should be above getting upset.

It was irratating that Halladay would get strike calls that our pitchers weren't getting. He is good enough that he doesn't need help

A bad result but it was a good game, we put up a good effort against a great pitcher.

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Docs always got those calls.

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by ohmybosh on Jul 2, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

this is true

doesn’t make it right, though

by benk on Jul 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

And he got those For us.

Can’t blame us for being mad for having those called against us, At home!

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by Vagabond13 on Jul 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Rauch's against Howard AB

How on earth can the ump miss that last pitch? Especially after giving Doc every pitch that had a possibility of being a strike.

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by jaysfan100 on Jul 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT reply actions

Hope he gets booed mercilessly tomorrow.

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by Frag on Jul 2, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Wilner on jays talk

was saying, someone from the organization tweeted, according to pitchFX, 10 strikes were called balls on jays pitchers, as opposed to 1 for Doc

by bowling_kid25 on Jul 2, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions

It wasn't someone within the Jays organization...

…it was a blogger.

I did my own analysis.

For Jays pitchers: 4 blown calls each way (Balls that were clearly strikes and strikes that were clearly balls.) Of the 9 borderline pitches, 4 were called strikes, and 5 were called balls. Overall: Just about even-up.

For Halladay: 6 pitches that were clearly balls called strikes, 1 called ball that was clearly a strike and all 5 borderline pitches were called strikes. 11 to 1 going the Phillies way.

BTW, of the 15 blown calls, 8 were on the first pitch, one was on a 3-2 pitch resulting in a walk to Howard in the 9th,

Marquez’s worst two ABs were Hill’s in the 7th with a blown call each way, and then rings him up for a SO on a borderline outside pitch and Victorino’s AB in the 6th where pitch #1 was borderline, right at the top inside corner of the strikezone and called a ball, but pitch #5 was higher just above the top outside corner of the strikezone, but called a strike. Then Marquez walks him with a 3-2 pitch that was borderline at the knees.

I’m really starting to think that robo-umps might be a good idea. If the human umps cannot be held accountable for their bad calls, maybe we should get rid of them.

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by bluejaysstatsgeek on Jul 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Have their been any experiments?

In the minor leagues… or other professional/amateur leagues…

It’d be interesting to see some case study reports and then base some decisions for further experimentation from that.

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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Jul 2, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

I can't think of a downside to automated ball/strike calls

Why do you need a “human element”? People who suggest that its part of the game are just being silly… all human umpires do is make mistakes and make the game unfair.

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by ohmybosh on Jul 2, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions

agreed

have them stand there and make judgment calls, but give them a buzzer in their pocket that buzzes when pitchFX says it’s a strike (if the technology is fast enough). problem solved

by benk on Jul 3, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions

he said it was a guy who is a host on the fan 590

by bowling_kid25 on Jul 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions

it's possible (if not unlikely)

that someone else did the same analysis

by benk on Jul 2, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions

It was dustin parkes, who blogs for the score, who tweeted it and Wilner read it on air.
“pitch fx: blue jays had 10 strikes called balls, Phillies had 1. blue jays had 3 balls called strikes, phillies had 4.” @dustinparkes

by Nadia on Jul 3, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

And here is the strikezone for the game. http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/zoneplot.php-pitchSel=all&game=gid_2011_07_02_phimlb_tormlb_1&sp_type=1&s_type=7.gif

by Nadia on Jul 3, 2011 10:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Ugh..didn't get to watch today's game..

But I’ll look at the positives, we scored threes runs against the Phillies in a game that Halladay start, I’ll take that anyday, now we just have to find consistency and try to get more runs against the Yankees and the Red Sox..

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

Even the philly fans in my section were mentoning their luck with the ump, bad balls and strikes all game and the play at the plate? Just piss poor

by mastanier on Jul 2, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Heard that Nix has been designated

and McCoy recalled…..

by Summer02 on Jul 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions

FO REALZ?

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Davidi tweet

by benk on Jul 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions

YES, YES, GIF PARTY?

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm in if it's true !

by Alan F. on Jul 2, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

My reaction to reading benk's post..

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions

That was a fun movie (Anger Management)

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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Jul 2, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

My reaction if it's true

by Alan F. on Jul 2, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

So who will claim Nix’s former spot on the 40-Man Roster?

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Sigh

Both games so far have been really fun. If the Jays had been able to hold leads on a supposedly anemic offense it would’ve been perfect. Oh well. Maybe today’ll light a fire under them.

by Nadia on Jul 2, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Rauch threw two pitches to Shane Victorino that he felt were good enough to be strike 3 (one that was clearly a strike)

That was Ryan Howard.

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by Frag on Jul 2, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions

I knew Jose can crush any pitcher

http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2011/7/1/2255029/jose-bautista-and-eric-thames-homer-jays-still-lose-to-phillies#71037821

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by IanJ on Jul 2, 2011 5:19 PM EDT reply actions

heh

by benk on Jul 2, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions

How long is Doc's contract with the Phillies?

And what would be the chances of him coming back to Toronto as a free agent when the Jays end up being perennial contenders a few years from now?

< /dreaming>

by durga2112 on Jul 2, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions

thru 2013

option for 2014

by benk on Jul 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Would be nice...

to see Halladay retire as a Jay…

or at least: go into the HoF wearing a Jays cap (like Robbie!)

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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Jul 2, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

What an entertaining game, shame we didn't come out on top.

Lots of crazyness,guy ran, stupid fans were cheering him on. And then after that Rauch incident there was a lot of garbage being tossed on the field ,took them awhile to pick it up.

You can really feel the frustration with Davis being at the park. Those two fly balls, he took a few steps inward and then had to run back. probably couldn’t have caught the one of the wall, but maybe Shane’s.

Doc got a standing o from the people there around 12 30, when he came out of the dugout to walk to the bullpen. Fans above their never sat down while he got ready.

I know he is a serious guy, and remained focus, but it would have been nice, especially before the game started, to at least look up at the fans and show some recognition.

Can’t wait to see what happens tommorow!

by bowling_kid25 on Jul 2, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions

Yesterday

Rick hansen got a really nice welcome by the fans for the opening pitch, it got so loud you barely could hear the MC.
Nice to see some troops in the stands, who had 100% participation in every wave that came by.
After Jose’s HR the whole stadium broke out into a singing “jose jose” chant, was really awesome.
I liked that they let Doc come out to do the ground rules, after they showed a short video montage of the milestones he had in Toronto. He was all smiles

Good amount of Phillies fans where i was sitting (219, bout half way between home and first), they were all civil, friendly, and funny too! Must be nice for the CAD to be at part with the USD, vendors accepted american money, didn’t have to worry about exchange rate.

by bowling_kid25 on Jul 2, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I was at the game.

And as a matter of fact he did recognize the crowd at the end of the game. He came out of the dugout after the Phillies shook hands on the field and looked up to the crowd and waived his cap.
Classy guy.

by Javi3r on Jul 3, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions

In an interview after the game he said he had pre-determined already that he wasnt going to tip his cap at the start. He felt it would be disrespectful to the Jays to basically come into their stadium and show them up in that fashion.

I was really proud of the crowd. Great standing O when he came out. And then after that we were booing ball calls from the ump and cheering on the Jays. I know there were a lot of Phillie fans there but there was a whole lot more Jays fans.

It was a great time.

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by JohnnyG on Jul 3, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions

well figured at the end, didn't wanna hang around and wait.

and i figured he would have pretty good reasons not too.

by bowling_kid25 on Jul 3, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions

RAUCH SMASH

Anigif of Rauch’s Eruption

by plen on Jul 2, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs

Haha, Rauch is awesome when he's angry!

by durga2112 on Jul 2, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions

YES!

Bookmarked for laters.

Thanks

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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jul 2, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Thought I would just post it here...

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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Jul 2, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions

PS

I can’t remember the last time I saw a player get this angry with an umpire.

Maybe it just looks extra angry because he’s turned green and there are three guys restraining him… and his jersey came off, lol. What sight (live) to see this must have been.

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by Jeremiah Stanghini on Jul 2, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions

It was.
Rauch is a scary guy

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by JohnnyG on Jul 2, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Question

Was he safe at home? did not look like it, but didn’t get to see a replay at the park

by bowling_kid25 on Jul 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah he was

The argument was all about the pitches to Howard though.

"The first thing I told the umpire is that it’s a shame that he can’t have an ERA because those runs were his," Rauch said. "I think he directly affected the outcome of the game. He’s trying to do the job the best that he can. Missing one I understand. The other one, who knows?"

Via Lott’s NP story

by plen on Jul 2, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Lott has Rauch's weight wrong

He’s not 250, closer to 300. No wonder it took Farrell, Wakamatsu, Arencibia and Butterfield to keep him from doing harm to Marquez.

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by bluejaysstatsgeek on Jul 2, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions

I think hes right around 6'11", 290lbs.

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I thought he was 6’11" (and so does Wikipedia) but the roster lists him as 6’10" and agrees with you that his weight is 290 lbs.

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by bluejaysstatsgeek on Jul 10, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions

JP didn't tag him

from Rauch’s angle it probably looked like he did (from RF camera it did too) but from overhead you could tell there was no tag

by benk on Jul 2, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Ugh

HD Sportsnet is so pretty. Why is cable so expensive

by Nadia on Jul 2, 2011 5:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs

McGowan: 0.2 IP, 3 hits, 3 ER, 1 walk, 1 SO. His first rehab start at Dunedin.

by Sniderlover on Jul 2, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions

Aw...he doesn't have his sideburns anymore :(

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by Joseph Kirby on Jul 2, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions