Blue Jay Trade Rumors: Colby Rasmus
by Tom Dakers on Jul 27, 2011 11:51 AM EDT
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PrintMore and more trade rumors today, which I'm sure pleases Alex Anthopoulos greatly.
Everyone is saying that the Jays have traded Jason Frasor to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson and that Jackson and someone, maybe Moises Sierra are off to the Cardinals for Colby Rasmus. There must be other parts going to St. Louis.
Ken Rosenthal is saying it is a done deal.
First part of deal is pretty much done: White Sox send Jackson and Teahen to BlueJays for Frasor and Zach Stewart.
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He wants the glory of writing the thread that blows up with a GIF party when this becomes official
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
lets save the gif party for 5:00pm
work computers suck, lets keep this csmoother…
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t GIF but I know others will… I am also at work
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Put in EE and call up this Canadian Guy,,,,,
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Off-Topic
Dirk Hayhurst is following Brett Cecil’s lead in establishing the fashion trend of the season: mohawk + glasses.
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whats the difference?……….if you flip them doesn’t it become a three-team deal
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
it looks like one but technically its 2 seperate trades..
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's 2 separate deals
a 3-way deal hinges on all participants accepting. Basically, we take on the risk that the Rasmus deal falls through, I think.
by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
quite Risky for the Jays then
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, but you gotta gamble once in a while
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What do we want with Teahan? Jackson and Teahan to TO is a done deal
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
salary dump for chisox
we will eat it. omnomnomnom
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
ok... that´s ok for me.... we have Rogers... so eating bad contracts won´t be a problem
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
We will eat it with enthusiasm for when we flip him along with a shitload of cash for some AA reliever
NOMNOMNOM
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
2012 = $5.5MM
That’s basically another year of Juan. I don’t mind one bit.
2011 Jays slogan should be "Power and Speed", not just "Hustle and Heart".
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#STLCards asked about Eric Thames, as a way to make sure they got an outfielder back in Rasmus deal. Not clear if #BlueJays will move him.
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Just logging into the twitter here to catch up on Jays neWHAT THE SH*T!
Choose me, Ash!
well i guess if STL backs out
having jackson isn’t the worst thing
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yah especialyl because some other team will take him
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
come on... i can´t wait 4 more hours to get to know who we send to St L
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
get your Edwin Jackson jerseys now!
while you still can
I've got my Olivo jersey!
My Napoli Jersey as well :-)
would make sense if we include Thames
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
All this happening a day after I posted this fact:
Edwin Jackson is the only active player to make his Major League debut as a starter on his birthday.
Coincidence? I think not!
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How did this all start with FRASOR?
Somehow, Frasor equaled the starting point for E-Jax, and Colby…
2011 Jays slogan should be "Power and Speed", not just "Hustle and Heart".
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It's funny there was an article about how Frasor had been here the longest.
AA saw it and was like “well, I can sure change that!”
Seems like Sierra is on the move...
Called Fisher Cats to ask why Sierra not playing today. Told to call #Bluejays as “we don’t have anything to do with that”. #jays
Wilner
Semells like it!
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT THE HELL
Zach Stewart and Jason Frasor go from CWS for Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen.
Jays must really not like him.
His stock has fallen like crazy in the past year.
well he was never all that great of a prospect
even if everything went perfectly he was a number 2 starter
Choose me, Ash!
I remember some people compared him to Drabek.
“This guy might even be better than Drabek”
well, KLaw liked him
Sickels was higher on him than most. but he hasn’t improved much since last year
Choose me, Ash!
siigh okay I can live with Frasor, Stewart and Sierra for Rasmus
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
OK with me
Too bad I never got to see Zach in person though
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
so that must mean there is another trade
sierra has to go somewhere!
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
more like Stewart, Frasor and Teahen's contract for ejax
Stewart’s a bit steep if you ask me. His stock may have dropped but I thought he had more value. Still, not a bad deal depending on what happens with StL
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Zach Stewart and Jason Frasor go from CWS for Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
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Onions Baby Onions
at least he put a title
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW………….we gave up a good prospect and a really good reliever for Jackson and Teahen?………Rasmus better be coming back
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Stewart?!??!?
Damnit! Now I have to watch the ChiSox…He’s going to be a good one.
Rasmus isn’t going to be cheap at the end of the day.
2011 Jays slogan should be "Power and Speed", not just "Hustle and Heart".
Proud member of the AL North
@VagabondBansal
Frasor, Stewart and Sierra for Rasmus is worth it…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And lots of Cash
$5.5 for teahen, and another Couple of MM to cards probably.
2011 Jays slogan should be "Power and Speed", not just "Hustle and Heart".
Proud member of the AL North
@VagabondBansal
plus a lot of cash
and there could still be more going to the cards
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Kevin Goldstein says
Horrible trade for WSox. RT @Buster_ESPN: Zach Stewart and Jason Frasor go from CWS for Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen
This makes me feel better.
Unless he is being sarcastic.
everyone else says its a good trade for them
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
someone needs to go give them more informaton
they are dieing over there =P
tell them they are getting sierra as well
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
they get a good prospect for 3 months of a starter who´ll be a free agent after the season... doesn´t sound bad to me
and Frasor will net them a pick in the next draft
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and they freed themselves of about $9M in salary
not bad at all. I guess their $$$ situation is more severe than they were letting on
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Goldstein really doesn't like Stewart or the deal
check his tweets
How is CR´s defense in CF?
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
Was +10 in his rookie year
-8ish the last 2 years…
hard to say… but if he is average his bat will play
Onions Baby Onions
What did I miss?
Can I get a coles notes version?
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
EEE is the new starting 3B and cleanup hitter for the rest of the year.
:)
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Jackson+Teahen from chisox to TO
Stewart + Frasor from TO to chisox
HOPEFULLY, Sierra + Jackson from TO to STL for Rasmus
by Nadia on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yea, its not a good standalone deal for the Jays without Rasmus involved
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
we did trade for Wells and Rios
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So if we have a Snider - Rasmus - Bautista OF
What about Thames?
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
DH?……………his bat has been great so far
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
he´s maybe included and on the way to St. L
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
sierra/thames/jackson for rasmus? I guess I’de do that
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Yes
But I don’t think anyone in their greatest dreams see him hitting .300 over a season
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
With his D
He will have to hit .280 with 25-30 homers a year for his bat to play in LF (on a contender in the AL east)
Onions Baby Onions
Guess not/
With the rumors flying about, I have been told that neither Moises Sierra nor Eric Thames is involved in today’s trading. #bluejays #Jays
hrm, does that mean no st. louis deal today? or different players involved? why isn’t Sierra playing in AA today then? dammit so many questions!…I really hope we aren’t stuck with Jackson
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There is no question in my mind that Edwin Jackson is going to be a #Cardinals by this evening. Only Q is who goes with him. #Bluejays #Jays
DH platoon with EE?
Maybe he is involved in the Rasmus deal?
I imagine it will take more than a few months of E-Jax and Sierra to get Colby
Onions Baby Onions
i would not like this deal if thats the case =(
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't get too attached to Thames
Even if he becomes an average to above-average corner OF, his D is well below par…. Rasmus is so much more valuable in CF… and they’re the same age.
Onions Baby Onions
i like Davis as a fouth outfielder and and late inning replacement
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLY CRAP
Did you see that horrible call in Pittsburgh in the 19th inning? That should be a fireable offense.
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
yes
it was mentioned in the game recap thread
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The ump obviously just wanted to go home
He was positioned perfectly to see.
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
he will never admit that though
hopefully the pirates can bounce back and not dwell on this
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
doesnt matter
apparntly hes not moving now..
this is a mess
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Whats a VEB?
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes me wonder who I'd rather give up at this point.
Thames or Snider? I like them both but I have no clue who will turn out better. Obviously it would be nice if we could keep both.
Despite all the accolades Snider has gotten
He has still yet to show anything consistent on the field. If AA believes that Snider is more hype than reality, maybe the right move is to trade him because of his perceived bigger value, thus leading to less other prospects having to move hands in the trade.
Snider is probably at his lowest value since he was drafted. Or maybe second lowest since he was sent down.
By every scout/baseball writer who comments on Snider vs Thames
See Keith Law for example, or any other number of analysts on fangraphs or BP I could mention.
which is why we're better off keeping Snider
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Is he though?
Their minor league numbers are rather similar. Their walk rates are too. Snider and Thames have both been hot lately, living on high BABIP and very high K/low Walks rates. The thing is like I said I don’t know who is better. We think Snider is better because of his draft status and that he came up young, but it is quite possible that from here on out Thames is a better player.
he's still a lot better than Thames
when he was still a prospect, Snider’s ceiling was much higher than Thames ever was and he is also further along in his deveopment. Including Snider in this deal would be an extreme sell low and uncharacteristic of AA. If he reaches his potential (and there is still plenty of reason to believe he will) he could be at least as valuable as Rasmus. Thames will never be more than a fringe OF.
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
That is if he reaches his potential.
Maybe next year Snider is just thought of as Alex Gordan, another overhyped prospect that never turned out. Then his value would sink fast.
maybe you'll be right
but if you trade him and you turn out to be wrong you just undersold on a young, controllable, above average major leaguer. They are much harder to produce than people seem to realize. I’d much rather get stuck with a prospect that didn’t work out than giving one away that did work out.
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
You could apply everything you just said to Thames.
It comes down to the point of what do we think of who is better from here on out. And despite what Tom and others are saying here, it is not that clear cut.
you get a much lower return
on percieved value than actual value
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Thames by a mile
Snider has been thought of as one of the best hitting prospects in the game coming up, and he is still younger than Thames.
Onions Baby Onions
And now it is 3 years later.
We all hope he’ll break out, but I’m not sure which one of the two will. Snider has better defense, but Thames does have his positives. I like his bat speed for example more than Snider.
Thames was a college player. Of course he is older.
The point is that I don’t know if Snider will turn out to be any better than Thames or not. If AA and the Toronto staff think that thames will end up better, why not trade the more valuable player?
and that is another point for Snider...if thames was near as good he's have been drafted out of high school
they aren’t close, no baseball person would take thames over snider ever.
high school outfielders will be high draft choices than college outfielders
the two aren’t close at the moment.
you may be right
but I think Thames deserves a longer look and Snider hasn’t earned anything yet. " Potential means you aren’t worth abag oshit yet" Moseby
That's a bit overreaching.
You think Rendon wouldn’t have been drafted high straight out of high school? It’s not as clear cut as you make it Tom. Snider does have better defense, but I don’t see a huge difference between the two offensively now. Similar walk rates, similar K rates, similar issues in that they both have holes in their swing. I’m getting to the point that I’m afraid that Snider will in the next year or so still not make any improvements and will become like Alex Gordon, at which point his trade value will drop fast and we might not get anything out of him.
I like Snider just as much as anyone here, but at some point he has to deliver on his potential. Will he ever? It’s been 3 years has it not, how many more do we have to wait before he comes through?
been 3 years of at least MLB average offense at age 23
Thames has had 4 weeks of slightly above average offense at age 24, comparing them at this point is not worth it, no baseball GM would want Thames over Snider
This is fun
Word is, edwin jackson definitely is being traded again, this time from toronto. I’ve heard its going to be for rasmus. #tradedeadline
ource: No cash in #BlueJays-#WhiteSox trade. Cash holdup I reported earlier must be on Jays-#Cardinals end
per Ken Rosenthal
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the troll guard worked!
someone on VEB complained about the wait lol
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well, we might as well just get over with it
since it seems to be happening
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2011: Boog would've count 72
you may get something worth it
never know…
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
doubt it
we won’t get comparable value, out GM just doesn’t seem to be that clever
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i don't know why i had this thought
ignore it.
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked Zach Stewart :( He did good when he came up
by Marcos Montenegro on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
It's hard to judge what a colossal mistake the Rolen/E5 trade was
When we keep shipping off the pieces :(
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by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Heard a lot of BAD things about Colby Rasmus...all around rebel
by Marcos Montenegro on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
they said that about yunel
it means moot till he gets here
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Bautista sits him down and says “look we can fix you you can make hundreds of millions, but you need to listen to our coaches and not rely on your dad anymore”
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Pikachu should rename himself
Colby The Rebel Georgian
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, that's all media.
AA’s massive scouting department knows more than us.
by StreakyJays on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
man am I gonna look spiffy
in my new Rasmus jays’ jersey
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-"Let the Wookie win"
Thank you Kaberle
rasmus not in tonights lineup?
cool beans
Choose me, Ash!
by Pikachu on Jul 27, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if he'll be at the Rogers Centre in time!!!!!!!
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha,.
This is all you need to know about Rasmus:
Retweeted, from@MindofPMurph
BAHAHAHAHAHAH
I’m sorry.
another wild guess
brandon morrow? like rasmus, a big name who has been slow to live up to potential. under control thru 2014, can start or relieve . . . .
From VEB
why would we send morrow for rasmus when we could get wily mo pena for him?
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Slow to live up to potential ace? before last nights game he had been arguably the best pitcher for this team…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I know its pushing it quite a bit because of Romero but damn Morrow is very good
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean
We say some crazy things on this site, but some people have no clue who Morrow is.
It gets better
Lawrie’s gotta be in there then
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All lurkers from other blogs.
The Jays are not trading Lawrie for anyone.
Our apologies.
I'm sorry... here's more.
I’m thinking Gose will be the get here.
No comment.
I'd be completely fine with that
Gose’s bat is still a work in progress, Rasmus is a huge upgrade.
by Jason Witte on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
why don't you guys just come over?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
2 day posting wait
i could hop on my old account though
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want to see your reaction
The more upset the other teams’ fans are, the better the deal is for us.
if we're involved, it's always a good deal for someone else
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
Also
Please tell your friends that Morrow is basically untouchable. Also, he is not Rasmus as a pitcher. He will never relieve again. And he hasn’t reached his ‘potential’ because his potential is so damn high.
Succintly put.
He has a super high celing with a super high floor.
by StreakyJays on Jul 27, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Rightttt.....
We’re building around our 1-2 punch of Romero and Morrow.
Trolling.
by StreakyJays on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yea...
we are just waiting to see what happens with the flip to STL for Rasmus
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
better late then never!
Welcome to the party!!
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen for Scott Rolen and Jayson Werth!
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so tempted to stream
wonder how much crap i’ll get into
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Blue Jays confirm Jackson and Teahen from White Sox for Frasor and Stewart. Nothing yet on a potential move with Cardinals
From Buster
Among the other pieces that STL/TOR have talked about, besides Edwin Jackson, are Marc Rzepczynski, Octavio Dotel. #trades
not R-zep………..you can have dotel
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
awww i like scrabble
VEB was talkinga bout him, they want a LHP
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Most fans at VEB are on sucide watch
This makes me sick to my stomach. About to become a Blue Jays fan
quick get him a poutine!
and a polar bear cub
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately the dog sleds are on back order but we’ll get you one shortly
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm from Ohio.
And poutine is nowhere. POUTINE FOR THE WIN!!
i like canadians, can i come too?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
At least that’s what the government would have you believe.
by TakeoutArtist on Jul 27, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
we have lots of roomand beer and poutine and afat dumb mayor. " Fat dumb and drunk is no way to go thru life son"
and a rasmus
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
That should be good new to the Jays, then.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
YAAY!! I don’t wanna sound mean but the worse you feel the better I feel about it…
Although the fact that you guys think Morrow could be a part of it and Lawrie HAS to be means you don’t really know the Jays system much so anyone without name recognition for you will be disappointing…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilner says Bautista is going back to RF next Tuesday
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Perhaps…. still waiting for the press release!
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it will be a bit before we know all the pieces...
even though writers say this is it, it might turn out to be different
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That means no Lawrie this weekend :(
at least I’ll have Rasmus
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta buy tickets now...
2011 Jays slogan should be "Power and Speed", not just "Hustle and Heart".
Proud member of the AL North
@VagabondBansal
Now I have 4 blue jays on my fantasy team.
LOL. What happens if they have an off day? I’m hosed! :-)
AYAYYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAAYAYYAYAAYY!!!
New life blood!
Blue Jay’s are saved!!!!
by StreakyJays on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I really liked Rzep
If he’s going, that sucks. Worth it to get Rasmus though.
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
by jonmorosi
Trade of Rasmus to Toronto imminent for Jackson, Dotel, Rzepczynski. More @stltoday.
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
So to recap, Frasor, Stewart, Dotel and R-zep for Teahen and Rasmus
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO………………………..not R-zep
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
but YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY….Rasmus
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I´ll take that in a second
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't getting Rasmus worth relaxing the language rules
Just for today.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
I’d still do it.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
Frasor, Stewart, Dotel, Rzepczynski for Rasmus + Teahen? I’d do it!
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummmmm
So in 1 day we lost rzep, dotel and Frasor. Our crappy BP just became horrible.
"He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man" - Bill Shakespeare
by craig in calgary on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
....That can't be it.
AA can be Godly, but he isn’t God, right?
by StreakyJays on Jul 27, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
VEB lurkers
Rzepcynski, the R is silent its just zep chins sky
but we call him scrabble, feel free to take that nickname for him
*tear
Call him Scrabble
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry we sign Gabryszwski (sic?) today so AA planned ahead for losing the name…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That was off the top of my head after taking 5 minutes to get it right this morning so I am impressed with myself… just don’t ask me to repeat it.
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It all makes sense now
At least Tom should be happy if we get rid of one of the hard names to spell.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
i guess that why mills was told hes going to the BP
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I've wanted to see Mills in the pen anyway
I don’t mind Perez coming back either.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
Expensive
Frasor, Zach Stewart, Mark Teahens salary ($7.2 MM for this year and next), Dotel (Type B), and Rzepczynski (Young, controllable, awesome lefty).
For
Rasmus (Awesome CF)
2011 Jays slogan should be "Power and Speed", not just "Hustle and Heart".
Proud member of the AL North
@VagabondBansal
Marc Rzepczynski this year vs. lefties .159 batting average, and a .203 slugging percentage. He would help St. Louis ’pen.#trades
he was very good for the Jays…pains to give him up but gotta give to get
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
so are the Blue Jays preferring Perez over Scrabble?
by Marcos Montenegro on Jul 27, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
no, but St Louis did
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
this Rasmus kid better be the real deal holyfield; we're giving up a lot, especialle Z Stewart
by Marcos Montenegro on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think R-zep is the bigger losss
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't worry too much about either
Both were probably bullpen guys anyway. Scrabble always had trouble getting in more than 5 innings and Stewart profiled as a reliever by BA, Law, etc.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
I don't think so
the Cards prefer Scrabble over Perez and the Jays prefer Rasmus
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
No... St. L preferring Scrabble over Perez
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
no I think its the Cards wanted Rzep and the jays relectantly parted with him until they remembered they are getting RASMUS
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this isn't bad at all
quite good in fact. We’re giving up 1 prospect and 3 relievers, 2 of which were gone at the end of the year.
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Well it looks like we kept both Thames/Snider
So that point is moot.
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Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Assuming that the Jackson/Rzepczynski/Dotel for Rasmus deal is done,at year’s end,STL will have a lefty reliever/draft pick for Colby Rasmus
“Ouch.”
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
awful deal for STL
If they can sign EJax, maybe alright… but still pretty horrific.
Onions Baby Onions
not if it gets them into the postseason
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
don't forget
they’d also have the option to keep Dotel! i hear he likes dancing in the bullpens of Busch stadium.
by Woodman663 on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Good work LaRussa
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
Haha. Nice.
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
The Toronto Blue Jays are turning into the Oakland Raiders of the ‘70s. They’ll take your talented guys (Escobar, Rasmus).
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
the difference here is
the Raiders took guys who were actually jerks. We are taking guys who aren’t, but their current teams think they are.
As long as they don't turn into the Raiders of the 00s.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
ZING!!!
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll miss Dancing Dotel.
But Yikes. AA’s definitely dealing.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jul 27, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
someone give them the dotel dancing gif later...
maybe it will help.
some still think they were going to get yunel, i don’t know how
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not. It was from an EE homer off the Cards...
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jul 27, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s imminent according to MLBTR!
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
i told my friend last summer when colby was being shopped (i think) that we were gonna get him
oh my god.
Choose me, Ash!
Okay. +10 UZR, -8 or so this year.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jul 27, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
According to UZR, not too good.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
thats not good……….
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by LeafFan1989 on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also only 24 going on 25
So things can change.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
well, you guys make sure to treat Raz well. he's weird but awesome
congrats
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
It seems the Jays collect'em.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Treat Rzep well too… he’s quite a good LHRP
Also treat Jackson good, he had the least amount of runs given up by pitchers on the jays roster this year
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
hah
Edwin Jackson will probably collect a shiner from Chris Carpenter for a welcome before everything goes back to normal
and i’m okay with that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
scrabble is really good
sad to see him go.
hopefully you guys extend jackson… make this trade look a little better
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
which one is scrabble, i'll make sure to pass it on
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
The one that you cant spell lol…
Rzepczynski
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
rzep
its worth like 32 points in scrabble or something.
and as mentioned, his r is silent, incase you are curious to how his name is pronounced
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, of course, i should have seen this coming
mike shannon on the radio will have a hell of a time pronouncing it after a couple of cold ones
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
Tell him to just go with Scrabble as well..
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
its almost like jep-chin-ski (i’m not good with this…)
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
zep not jep?
but thats what i say lol
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever you do
Do not use Dotel against left handers. Never ends well.
Dont post often but..
i figured id get in on this. Lets all celebrate with a Rasmus link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI8l87uyDXM
so where does Davis go now?
Davis just became the 5th OF and Patterson the 6th. Any trade value there?
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Davis would be good trade fodder for a contender needing a 4th OFer. Patterson, I have no idea…
-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
-"Let the Wookie win"
Thank you Kaberle
I'm thinking Patterson has no value
but Davis could still fetch something as part of a package. Either way, they’re both gone.
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
Davis will be pinch runner/ potential late game defensive replacement..
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If miracles happen to today... can AA flip Hill and Molina for Cano?
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
Let's not get greedy
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
I'd rather have Pedroia and CC
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
We’ll have to include Patterson in that…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
With Frasor, Zep, and Dotel gone
Starters are probably gonna be asked to aim for CGs each start
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by Minor Leaguer on Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
McCoy to the BP ...so he doesn´t need to fly to Vegas every second week
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's not get carried away
Dotel was on mop-up duty. Villanueva can go back to the pen and take Frasor’s spot and Mills or Perez can fill in for R-Zep. Not really much of a downgrade at all. If anything, we get more Janssen and CV in the pen, which is good.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
I think CV stays in the rotation for now as with stewart gone and Mills in the ’pen Litsch is our only real option for the 5th spot and it leaves us with no one to replace CV in the rotation…
by WizardofNaz on Jul 27, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
CV’s innings are too high, I have a feeling he’ll be heading back to the pen soon somehow
-"I'm not drinking and driving, I'm driving while I'm drinking....Right boys!?"
-"Let the Wookie win"
Thank you Kaberle
Drabek might come back
But you’re probably right.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
This year he's not.
But he still contributes usually. This is a potential based deal, which his potential is HUGE. I think being here in a new environment and with Dave Murphy and our players he will bounce back.
Yunel Escobar v.2.0?
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
So we traded half our pen + stewart for rasmus and a salary dump?
by Political Machine on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
our pen was awful, we don´t need to win this year…and you won´t get a guy like Rasmus often for one prospect and 3 relievers
We didn´t need to include Thames, Snider, d´Anauld … this is a good trade for TO
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Get Colby Rasmus for a couple of decent pitchers?
Deal with it!
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
by Frag on Jul 27, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
A 400-comment trade thread involving AA...
and not a single mention of Pujols? AA does like his suprise deals! Pull that one out, AA!
Pujols is FA after the season.
AA likes his men under contract.
by StreakyJays on Jul 27, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
four more days till deadline
offer us a cornfield and 2 relievers and it’s done
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
At least a pitcher
I wouldn’t go more than 4 years on Fielder and I don’t think he’ll go less than 6 unless a market doesn’t develop for him
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
then we're wasting bautista's prime
we’re mostly ready to compete by now. get another elite bat and i can see it happen
Choose me, Ash!
there are other ways to get an elite bat
make a trade in the offseason. You have to give up pieces but you’ll always get better value than going after a high priced free agent.
To every complex problem, there is an answer that is simple, easy to understand and wrong
jesse perez mills
patterson dfa..
how do we get lawrie up here now? hope for an ee trade?
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jul 27, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
EE is going to the bench
He and Thames can platoon in the DH spot.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
Whoot Whoot!
"Touch ´em all, Joe!"
by jaysfanfromeurope on Jul 27, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Could you guys see Anthopolous still being in on Jimenez?
This guy seems to be capable of anything.
I wouldn't put it past him
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
Hmm....this is interesting..
"If you are not sure, ask yourself, "What would Ted do?" Then do the opposite."
- Barney Stinson
I do occasionally go on Youtube...
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
The trade: Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson.#trades
and it just got worse for us
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 72
I'm reading a lot of love for Rasmus
Being from the St. Louis area and watching Rasmus play centerfield. Corey Patterson can teach him how to go back on a ball hit over his head. Rasmus cost the Cardinals at least 2 games this April with his defense. I am not a fan of Rasmus and I hope a change of scenery will do him well and i am wrong. The only hitting coach Rasmus listens to is Tony Rasmus. I think a lot of the things said about Alex Rios time in Toronto will be what we are saying about Rasmus in 2 years. I would have prefered to keep the pieces we traded and wait on Gose.
Usually to win a trade...
You have to get the best player in the deal. We definitely got the best player in this deal, and he is 24? I’m so over the moon right now.
Colby, you have a fresh start! :D :D :D
Satchel Price is pretty impressed with AA’s moves during his tenure, especially this one.
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