The Blue Jays Need To Add Michael Young
by PaullyPforPrez on Jul 6, 2011 12:36 PM EDT
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If Michael Young is a Blue Jay this year this is a playoff team.
Rock the lineup of:
1:Yunel/Rajai
2: Thames/Patterson/Yunel
3: Jose
4: Adam Lind/Michael Young
5:Michael Young/Adam Lind
6: Travis Snider/Brett lawrie
7: J.P. Arencibia/Molina
8: Aaron Hil/Brett Lawrie
9: Edwin/Johnny Mac/Rajai
Pitchers don't get a break!
Our lineup would be deadly, not only that but our defense would be improved, you could platoon Young and Johnny Mac at 3B to save his knees and use him as a DH. I know we would have to get rid of Corey Patterson or Edwin but it would be worth every penny.
Our lineup then goes to
C: Arencibia/Molina, 1B: Adam Lind/Young, 2B: Aaron Hill/Lawrie/Johnny Mac, SS: Yunel/Johnny Mac, 3B: Michael Young/ Johnny Mac, RF: Jose, CF: T Snider/Rajai, LF: Thames/Snider/Patterson, DH: Edwin/Young/Lind
Personally, I would like to see Patterson gone. I know he's a lefty bat but we would be better suited with Snider anyway. If we can add Michael Young he really makes us a contender. Our pitching has not been dominant but it has been good if not great and with they way things are going if we add Michael Young we instantly become a playoff team.
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A playoff team? I think you may be over-estimating the influence Young would have the lineup. With the exception of Lind and Bautista and to a certain extend Escobar we haven’t exactly been hitting like all-stars.
Not to mention our pitching.
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by JohnnyG on Jul 6, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Keep watching! It totally changes.
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Yah-- It gets worse.
But I did pay $6.00 for the Trollolo T-shirt.
I can’t believe that you sucked me in to watching the whole thing.
hehehe
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Whoa
Man you have to keep watching, after the third loop a new flash animation starts.
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Lawrie is not playing second
And Micheal Young is not the one piece we need to instantly become a contender.
I'm thinking that when the Leafs win the Cup, I'll lose my drinking problem.
by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
This is the line-up you're looking for
1. Escobar SS
2. Lind (L) 1b
3. Bautista RF
4. D. ORTIZ (L) DH
5. Lawrie 3B
6. Snider(L) CF
7. JPA C
8. Thames LF
9. Hill 2B
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
still won't do it
Add Jeter, then THEN you get PLAYOFFS!!!
by bowling_kid25 on Jul 6, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see Jose convincing AA to sign Big Papi next year.
They’re best friends and they would mash a ton at RC. Maybe they can get him at a discounted rate.
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
by Bullpen Lurker on Jul 6, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i never heard they were friends
until this HR derby talk. I wonder if its fabricated… or they are actually friends?
by bowling_kid25 on Jul 6, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe BFF's is a bit of a stretch. Maybe they'll bond more at the Derby.
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
by Bullpen Lurker on Jul 6, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
but even friends
im curious to know if they are, or if they are trying to make ortiz look like the big teddy bear he is…
by bowling_kid25 on Jul 6, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they're both from Santo Domingo.
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
by Bullpen Lurker on Jul 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Ortiz did back Jose last year when he was snubbed for the Derby
And they both seemed to acknowledge friendshipmwhen asked about it in interviews yesterday prior to the game.
37. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload.'
That’s what I said about Manny in the off-season, but eveyone was all like “No, he’s still good.”
I'm thinking that when the Leafs win the Cup, I'll lose my drinking problem.
by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 7, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
manny costs at most 5 million dollars, and just one year contract
michael young is not
Choose me, Ash!
talking about Manny
(and being in charge of the stale jokes)
Is he still a type A Free Agent?
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
Jeter's playing 2B in your scenario?
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
by Bullpen Lurker on Jul 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT?
how can you move the best ss away from ss
you are so silly
by bowling_kid25 on Jul 6, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT WAS I THINKING?! I forgot about all his Gold Gloves.
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
by Bullpen Lurker on Jul 6, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
/Waves hand
This is not the DH you’re looking for.
I'm thinking that when the Leafs win the Cup, I'll lose my drinking problem.
by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 8, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Deja Vu
Is it only me or did we have this discussion before?
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
by HESS2479 on Jul 6, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
congratulations
you’ve successfully induced vomit in my mouth
Choose me, Ash!
by Pikachu on Jul 6, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Hey! people here just had lunch!
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
Young at thrid till Lawrie comes up (lets say aftre half the seasom), then move him to DH would improve the teams WAR
Our third baseman’s accumulated WAR (1/2 season) >> 0
Young’s >> 1.4 (-.2 dWAR)
Young Total WAR over season >> 3 WAR, while being completely over paid
Our third basemen + Lawrie >> giving Lawrie a very conservative WAR of 1 per season you would have our third basemen accumulate .5 WAR
So for a lot more money you make the team about 2 WAR better, if you had him this entire season. If we acquire him now you would probably only improve about 1 WAR, for a hell of a lot more money. And that’s amusing that EE is a wash at DH.
If you can't pay em' trade em' and pay for someone else
no no no no
Young and j-mac platoon at third, and lawrie platoons at 2nd.
Jeez.
by bowling_kid25 on Jul 6, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Why stop at Michael Young?
Lets add Justin Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, Matt Kemp, Francisco Rodriguez also.
sheesh
Young is very aquireable
If thats even a word. He’s platooning at 3b and DH for Texas who struggles to get their young guys in.
Micheal Young is a perfect fit for this ball club, he would add a nice veteran do it all guy to the clubhouse but still has a quiet presence about him. i honetly think its a great fit.
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Sounds like Vernon...
Hey! weren’t they great pals?
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
Only problem with Young is he makes $15 mill a year (more than Bautista and Lind combined this year)
by Matthew Mueller on Jul 6, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and another $32 million for '12 and '13
Plus he’ll be 36 by the 2013 season. Someone may have misinterpreted comments about AA concentrating on young high upside players.
And that kills any chance of him being here in Toronto.
Double A wants to spend a lot of money into drafting and development and all that.
He doesn’t really care for the free agent market.
Though apparently AA was interested in Dan Uggla, which is news to me.
just cos you can do something
doesn’t mean you should. why in the name of Superman would we increase our payroll by 25% for an aging, defensive-liability player who may or may not be a locker room malcontent?
by benk on Jul 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Like we're missing defensive liabilities in 3B...
Edwin, I’ might not look at you, but I’m still thinking about you…
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)
Young is an average offensive hitter
With no position to play and making way too much money. Texas can have him. And I wish them luck finding a sucker to pick him up like we did with Wells. At least Wells can play in the OF still.
he's not, actually
the past 3 years he has wRC+’d 130, 106 and this year 124. he’s pretty excellent offensively, he’s just a terrible fit for this team
have you seen his home/away splits?
I know wRC+ is supposed to account for that to some extent, but his career wRC+ at home is 126, while on the road it’s 91. I’d be wary of moving him from Arlington.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
woah.
I had not. he’s even worse of a fit than I had thought! I didn’t actually think that was possible
Yeah he's average.
Any player from Texas you have to take that into account. With the intro of the humidor in Colorado it is the best offensive ballpark in baseball.
Also makes you wonder about Wells
Why did LA take him when they knew that Well’s numbers much more suited Rogers Center than their own ballpark.
there are much bigger reasons
to wonder about concerning why LA took Vernon. but wRC+ is supposed to be park-adjusted, as hugo said, maybe it doesn’t adjust for splits? strange, anyway.
And really?
Do it all? What can Young do it all? He can play DH and hit slightly above averagely. There are plenty of players we can get that from for less than 15 million a year.
There is a reason he is quite aquireable as you put it……
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Why would we try to get a player that doesn't play good defense
when we have several on the team already?
Jose Bautista has a higher midi-chlorian count than you do.
some players that don't play good defense
are still good players (see: Bautista, Jose)
WAR... WAR never changes.
In my biased opinion that is in no way supported by research or statistics
I believe that Jose’s defense in right is far better than Young’s defense at any position.
That said, I am not arguing against your point, which is perfectly valid.
Jose Bautista has a higher midi-chlorian count than you do.
oh Young is bad and I don't want him near this team
but we could probably build a bad defensive team that still wins lots of games
WAR... WAR never changes.
DEREK JETER!!!
I'm thinking that when the Leafs win the Cup, I'll lose my drinking problem.
by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 7, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Young has a no-trade clause
so even if we want him, which we don’t, he doesn’t want to be here.
No Doubt / Kid Wu / Jamie / NarFanFor/ lolSquareFor
Indeed he does.
He’s got a no trade clause. So either way he’s not going to be coming (thankfully).
"The first thing I told the umpire was that 'It's a shame that he can't have an ERA because those runs are his.' "
Troll, troll, troll your boat......can Michael Young close games?
If so I change my mind, let’s get him!
"Io voglio vandeeeeettaaaa!!!!!"
If Mike McCoy can do it...
I'm thinking that when the Leafs win the Cup, I'll lose my drinking problem.
by leafsfan4life94 on Jul 8, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Young as a jay
Exactly what I was thinking about six months ago, when I read reports that Young was unhappy with the amount of playing time he was getting. And being a former jay prospect, he might be willing to come play in Toronto. I don’t know why they didn’t try to get him at the start of the year, but I suspect finances were the major concern. They figured they could get as much production from EE for less money and if that didn’t work, why there always was Lowrie in the minors ready to come up. It backfired on them however. 3rd Base has been a sore spot for the jays all season, with no one putting up even semi-respectable numbers.
Michael young as a jay
Some of the commenters ask why the jays should acquire an aging slugger whose best hitting and fielding days are behind him. Then I remember the players the jays acquired in the early 90s, Paul Molitor, Dave Winfield and Ricky Henderson, all of whom met that description. So maybe their best days were behind them, but they provided that veteran presence which pulled the jays to 2 World Series championships. Thats why you would acquire a Michael Young, for those intangibles which you know they possess, and which you don’t know your other players have.
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