Complete Control, That's a Laugh: Pitching Strategy is the Result of a Series of Tradeoffs
Last night, in the gameday thread, we discussed profiling pitchers based on how they attack hitters (or, more specifically, the results of their attacks on hitters). An interesting question was posed this morning (or, I suppose, late last night, depending on when you go to bed, I did not see it until this morning) about what constitutes the ideal pitcher. Now, the concept of the "ideal pitcher" is kind of a loaded term. Theoretically, the "ideal" pitcher would be someone who could make batters swing and miss on every pitch, thus throwing 81 pitch, 27 K shutouts every start. Of course, outside of Albert Brooks/Brendan Fraser films, this is impossible to do.
More practically, the <em>best</em> pitchers often have high groundball-rates to go along with high K-rates and low BB-rates. Now, it's possible to make up for an average groundball-rate if the pitcher strikes more batters out or almost never walks anyone. As an example, someone like Cliff Lee continues to be one of the best in the game in spite of league-average (or below) groundball-rates because of his strikeout- and walk-rates. It is more difficult to compensate for low strikeout-rates (though pitchers with superlative groundball-rates, like Derek Lowe and Tim Hudson are solid, though unspectacular, arms).
As was mentioned earlier, pitching deep into games is an important factor to consider as well. Considering that games are nine innings long (generally), pitchers who excel for five or six less innings still leave three or four innings for the opposition to score off the bullpen. The knock against pitchers like Brandon Morrow is legitimate. Morrow is an exceptional pitcher for six innings and an excellent pitcher overall. Most pitchers pitch into the eighth inning by relentlessly pounding the zone. Since it is difficult to strike batters out when everything is over the plate, there is a tradeoff associated with keeping the ball in the strike zone all the time. However, to maximize pitch efficiency, pitchers need to keep the ball in the zone, otherwise they'll be lifted from the game with a pitch count of 110 in the sixth inning. There is also a tradeoff associated with pitch location within the strike zone -- pitches up in the zone are more likely to generate swings and misses (and, consequently, strikeouts), but also more likely to generate flyballs (and, thus, homeruns). Pitching down in the zone leads to more groundballs, but also more contact. Even poorly hit balls can squeak through the infield, leading to baserunners and, eventually, runs.
Realistically, a pitcher's plan of attack should change with each batter that he faces. While this is not an exhaustive list, some of the factors affecting his strategy (in addition to his personal repertoire and feel for pitches at that time) include the batter he is facing, the quality of his defence behind him, his pitch count that day, and the game situation (how many outs and how many bases are occupied). Pitchers are likely to change their strategies between pitches within a single plate appearance: if a pitcher has a batter at 1-2, why not try for the K? Alternatively, if he's fouled off four or five pitches, maybe it's time to just try and get him to ground out. Thanks to Jonathan Silvertown, plant population ecologists know that plant resource allocation strategies require tradeoffs between survival, growth, and fecundity. In fact, pitching strategies are a result of a similar series of tradeoffs.
Thanks to The Clash for today's post title.
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Nestor Molina trying hard to be perfect.
2 innings so far, 5 (!) strikeouts, 2 groundballs (one was a double, the other an out).
i wanna see molina pitch to molina
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by Pikachu on Aug 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
really, it justs makes me appreciate roy halladay even more
he really is the perfect pitcher
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Halladay sacrificed a little bit of GB rate
to halve that walk rate though
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and halladay continues to get better
he’ll be pitching perfect games every start when he’s 50
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yeah
but i’m just impressed by how much he improved over last season, though he’s getting a bit (or alot) lucky
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and you want felix over doc
pfft
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 18, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
if it was a fantasy keeper league, i'd want Felix
if its a redraft, i’d want halladay
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i wonder who's gonna get drafted 1st next year
If this was June, i’d say Bautista hands down, but now I’m leaning more for Pujols/Tulowitzki
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of course, but not from 2005-2007
It’s such a shame Webb got injured. I kinda like 60+ GB rates. Chicks dig the longball, I dig the groundball.
Justin Nicolino
If he would sustain his stats at higher levels (which of course he won’t) he’d be almost perfect:
35.2% Ks (insanity!)
59% GBs (even more insanity!)
question for you
is an MLB team allowed to have more than 1 affiliate in a certain minor league level? i.e. could the jays have an affiliate in both the PCL and the IL?
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you can have multiple at a certain level
but I don’t know about the leagues thing
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wouldn't that create some games where an affiliate is playing against another affiliate?
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There's 30 affiliates in AAA
I don’t think you can just prevent one team from having an AAA-affiliate.
Don’t know the rules though.
no, we have a A- team in Vancouver, a RK (+) one in Bluefield
plus the GCL one (RK- or something).
Some teams have two rookie ball affiliates, some just one.
aren't Rookie jays and bluefield in the same level
just different leagues? bluefield is in APPL, rookie jays in GCL
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APP is rated as more advanced
Though I don’t know if the difference is that big. I do get the feeling that if a difference exists, the difference between APP and GCL might be bigger than between APP and NWL.
now that was good
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohhh I thought he was still A
How are you so up to date? (General question) Watching/Listening or gameday?
And why do so many pitchers go AA-MLB instead of AA-AAA-MLB?
tom pays him a lot to be informed!
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
because offensive numbers in the PCL are super inflated
but that said, I don’t really know why we skip AAA
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I wouldn't mind seeing how these pitchers pitch in AAA
But I bet AA has a good reason not to.
the altitude
makes it harder to get movement on pitches. No reason to learn how to pitch at altitude since only one park in the MLB is at altitude, which is Colorado. We almost never play Col anyway.
Would it make sense to get a 2nd AAA affiliate?
Or do we have one?
we are most likely out of the PCL once the contract is up
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No, that's not for certain
They also need to find another AAA team with a contract that’s expired and then convince that team to be affiliated with the Jays.
If they don’t they would be stuck with Vegas again.
most likely != certain
they will try very very very hard to get out
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 18, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it depends on what the pitcher needs to develop.
Drabek got sent to AAA because he needs to work on his fastball and control. The altitude and general PCLness of that league won’t affect that aspect of his pitching.
Going to AAA is perhaps not the greatest thing for guys who use a lot of movement on their pitches. The balls go straighter in that league. So perhaps moving from AA to Toronto makes more sense for these types of guys.
unlucky day for Gose
two deep flyouts (one very deep to center), and now a lineout.
Oops, slightly off-topic as Gose is not trying to be a perfect pitcher.
insanity
they’re throwing in the NH bullpen…Molina’s coming out after just 60 pitches of TOTAL EMBERASSMENT OF THE OPPOSITION (TEOTO?)
Perhaps the innings limit
Is more for the benefit of the bullpen in that certain guys will pitch certain innings so they can get gameday work?
Yes, but then you’d think they’d go by pitch count instead of innings.
You’re probably correct, but they seem to be treating McGowan in the same way: using innings regardless of whether the pitch count is very low.
well there's also the resting between and warmup pitches between innings
I don’t know if there’s that much “science” to it, but it probably makes sense
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I can't remember where I read an article about the 'perfect' pitcher before.
It showed that Doc, Lee and Hamels were the perfect pitchers, showing hits allowed, k’s, BB’s, GB’s in a pie chart.
Just missed list included Oswalt and Romero.
The premise was the same as this one, a good pitcher is a K and GB’er.
Yikes Zach Stewart
Speaking of perfect… did anyone see Stewart’s line yesterday? In relief of Buehrle, 1.2 IP, 5 SO, 1 BB
when did he start being a relief? lol
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
... when they finally make the movie that's been rumoured forever...
Brett Lawrie will have been converted from a 2B to a SS over the offseason. Jose will be starring in a Michael Bay-directed Beasties movie (spoiler alert: he enters Beast Mode by transforming into a HR hitting animal-themed robot). Dustin RHP McGowan will be in the rotation in the 5th spot, but he’ll close games with his left arm (there’ll be less stress on the shoulder/elbow).
and Michael Cera will be noticeably not a teenager anymore (he’ll still be awkward as poop though)
by JaysFanExiledinOTT on Aug 18, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I just found this site:
http://minorleaguecentral.com/index.php
Splits for minorleague players. Pretty cool
I just have one question...
Is that Brendan Fraser movie ‘The Scout’ any good?
Thisrighthere!
by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Aug 18, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
haven't seen it in years
but the movie reinforces pop psychology and Fraser joins the Yankees from what I remember.
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
no
but good baseball movies are pretty hard to come by
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
Morrow.
A caller to Wilner’s post game show last night noted that Morrow has not induced one double play this year. Rare and odd stat if true.

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