Read It to Yourself Again, Stories Always End the Same: Jays lose to Rays 6-5
Well, the Jays put up a decent fight but came up short again this afternoon. Luis Perez managed to escape a few jams, allowing four walks and five hits, but yielding only two earned runs over five innings. He got some help from the defence but overall did an acceptable, if not exceptional, job and managed to strand loaded bases in the bottom of the fifth by striking out Ben Zobrist.
The real damage occurred after Perez was lifted, first against Shawn Camp in the sixth and then off Jesse Litsch in the seventh. Camp, to put it quite simply, was dreadfully ineffective today. He only gave up one run, that is largely because the Rays managed to bunt into a double play. Even with the two free outs, Camp still couldn't manage to escape the inning unscathed. Litsch was also bad, walking two batters and then giving up a three-run homer to B.J. Upton, putting the Rays up 6-2. Casey Janssen and Frank Francisco were solid, if unspectacular, to close out the game.
The Jays bats woke up some (seven hits, five for extra bases!, plus three walks), but were mainly scattered. Jose Bautista drove in a run with a double in the first, but failed to score from second after Adam Lind lined a single and the Jays couldn't cash him from third with just one out. J.P. Arencibia had two RBI. He drove one run in on double in the fourth and drove in Brett Lawrie (who had tripled) in the seventh on a groundout. Of course, an RBI groundout hardly helps the team when it is losing 6-2 in the seventh, but it is better than a strikeout. Eric Thames and Edwin Encarnacion each hit back-to-back homers in the eighth to make it close but the Jays just couldn't come all the way back.
J.P. Arencibia had a great day behind the plate, making some nice blocks and gunning down three baserunners. Brett Lawrie made a nice play on Kelly Shoppach's bunted double play, corralling a bit of a high throw from Camp to get the force at third and then firing a strike to Lind to get Shoppach at first. Lind Kelly Johnson threw back to Lawrie and they almost ended up getting a triple play (Sean Rodriguez advanced from first to third on the play) but couldn't. Bautista did throw out Rodriguez at third two innings later when he tried to advance two bases following an errant pickoff attempt from Janssen. Aggressive baserunning is fun to watch, but I don't know how much it necessarily helps the team -- I loved Johnny Mac as much as the next guy (okay, maybe not quite as much), but it was certainly one thing that made me grind my teeth when I watched him.
JotD: No one had the numbers, but I'm giving it to J.P. (-0.004) for nabbing the three attempted steals and his RBI double. Honorable mentions go to Encarnacion (.069) and Thames (.068), who were closest.
Suckage awards go to Litsch (-.240), Camp (-.099), Dewayne Wise (-.139) and Yunel Escobar (-.134), mostly because they were the last batters of the game (also why J.P.A. had a negative WPA, his last plate appearance lost him .092).
On the bright side, there's always tomorrow. Brandon Morrow for the Jays, David Price for the Rays. We look to get back above .500. Hopefully Bautista hits Price like he has so far this year.
Thanks to the Weakerthans for today's post title.
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Only watched alittle bit, so guys how was the offence today
was it still struggling with alot of swing and miss on offspeed stuff. I see the 5 runs, i assume its atleast ok today right?
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we scored 5 runs?
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Did that happen when you were transferring your data to the backup drive?
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by Minor Leaguer on Aug 27, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
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Do the Rays and Jays know how to play blowouts? I think yesterday was 1 of the 2 in the 13 games played that wasnt decided by 1 or 2 runs.
Price has been 2010 Price as of late and Morrow eats the Rays alive. That is the match up of the series. And seriously, Price, just walk Jose, even in the 1st….
Sorry David but dude owns you.
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by Minor Leaguer on Aug 27, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry man, they aren't a fan of me
Kinda shocked I’m not banned also, actually.
Dropping logic on them doesn’t go over well. Must wear homer glasses every day.
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lol yes we always play close game, the problem for us is the Rays are always on top
and even with a lead, the late innings vs you guys are always so nervous(that could be said to all leads this season). As a Jays fan i hate seeing the Rays similar to how O’s fans hate seeing the Jays especially last season. I love your team’s organization but it would be nice to switch around dominate you guys for a few seasons
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I love their organization in that I’m jealous of it. Other than that I freaking hate it.
by leaflover4ever on Aug 27, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Litsch
I just read over the game thread, and in it benk said there was no reason that Perez was starting over Litsch. This same sentiment has been expressed by a number of other people who want to see Litsch back in the rotation. I think I know the answer to this: Litsch is not a starting pitcher. He started out as such, but during the last two years has pitched a total of 9 and 46 innings, due to injury. This year, he started in the rotation, but was again injured. I think the Blue Jays have decided that, for whatever reason, his body can no longer take the rigors of starting pitching (i.e. more than, say, 2-3 IP), and this is why he is in the bullpen. I don’t think we will see him in a starting role again, not even a spot start.
while that may be the case,
but they’re of the opinion that health issues shouldn’t prevent Dustin McGowan from starting. If they don’t think it’s an issue for McGowan, it seems strange that they’d think it was one for Litsch.
It’s certainly possible and, if that’s the case, I understand why they wouldn’t come out and say it (I imagine that doing so might hurt his trade value some) but I’m not sure I buy it just yet.
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Not accurate
They gave a reason for Litsch in the pen, namely they found it cheaper and easier to trade for a #4/#5 starter than a quality relief guy, so it works out best to use anyone relegated to #4/#5 work out of the pen to see if they can be dominant relief while they have a chance (same as they did with Rzepczynski). It may be some odd logic, but the reasoning has been given.
I'd say something savvy and poignant
… but people would call me troll.
anybody up for taking the bait?
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by benk on Aug 27, 2011 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We're no longer the 4th best offense guys!
Now we’re 6th. Only 101 runs behing the Yankees!
Sorry to be pedantic...
…but it was Kelly Johnson covering first who was the middle man in the almost triple play, not Lind.
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Also pedantic...
“Eric Thames and Edwin Encarnacion each hit back-to-back homers”
They each hit homers. They were not back-to-back.
yeah, i rushed that
thanks for pointing out the errors!
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We've only a few hot(ish) hitters...
So lets bat them together… at least make the other guys pitchers work a bit..
Bautista, Thames (hotish), Bautista (hotish), Lawrie (hotish), EE (warmish), Lind, then the rest…
Wow the Jays have two Bautistas???
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by Minor Leaguer on Aug 27, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, thats what the Booster Juice is for, they makes everyone become Bautista
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batting order conservatism
It is an ongoing pet peeve of mine, that the Jays are not willing to alter the batting order. Hot hitters( Lawrie, in particular) should be batting higher, and ice cold hitters( Lind), should be batting in a different position, until their stroke is regained. Why has Lind continued to bat in the clean-up position? Has he earned this right? At the moment, Lind offers no protection for Bautista, Pitchers are pitching around Bautista, because they would rather face the batters following him. Batting orders should be shuffled constantly. Where one bats in the order, should be based on merit, not what you did for me in May. Keeping cold hitters in the same batting order positions can backfire, as Cito Gaston found out in 2010, when he kept the underperforming Lind/ Hill combo together for much of the season with predictable results.
Hands up if you think pitchers are going to pitch to Bautista differently if lawrie is hitting behind him instead of Lind.
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by Pikachu on Aug 28, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lind is not doing the job
Lind should be placed in a different spot on the batting order, because he is not producing. Lawrie may not produce, but he is swinging the bat well and deserves to be placed in an rbi position. Clearly, the Jays need a legitimate and consistent power bat next season to protect Bautista, otherwise it will be another season of 100 plus walks. If it is not relevant who is hitting behind Bautista, why are opposing teams pitching around him? One imagines, if Pujols or Fielder, were hitting behind Bautista the batting order dynamic would change significantly.
by tenpointgame on Aug 28, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
you can imagine all you want
but statistical analysis has shown that pitchers do not pitch differently – except in the case of 8th hitters in the NL, obviously – depending on the on-deck batter.
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bautista
If pitchers know a Pujols or Fielder, is directly behind Bautista, to avoid extra men on base, they will likely pitch to Bautista, in order to have him earn his way on base. Bautista is walking more this season, not only because he has a ‘good eye’, but the opposing pitchers do not fear Lind and some of the other hitters behind Bautista.
On another point, I would like to see Lind and Snider packaged to receive something of value in return. The heart of the Jays batting order needs to be revamped, and to get players of any consequence in return, you have to give up players of reasonable ability.
by tenpointgame on Aug 28, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
We're not denying that we need better bitters than lind
But you have the wrong idea about protection. Look at Gonzalez, he’s getting less FB and less pitches in the zone now in Boston than he did in SD, where he was the only good hitter.
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by Pikachu on Aug 28, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why are people so against walks
A walk is an excellent outcome.
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but its not a hit!
so it sucks!
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