The Windows Of Your House Reflect Back On Yourself: Jays 5, Orioles 4
Wooo! the Jays pulled out a 9th inning comeback today to edge Baltimore, 5-4.
On the Mound:
Henderson Alvarez was quite good through seven innings, giving up 9 hits (8 singles) and one walk while striking out 4. Alvarez was leaving the ball up early but soon settled in, and 12 of 15 batted balls were on the ground in a very impressive display.
At the Plate:
Jose Bautista's 41st home run of the season, and Brett Lawrie's 9th were most of the offense through the first 8. Then, in the ninth, David Cooper struck out to start the inning. Old friend Kevin Gregg game in to try to close things out and struck out Brett Lawrie to put Baltimore just one out away. Kelly Johnson worked a walk and Jose Molina singled him to second. Adam Loewen came in to hit for DeWayne Wise and was hit by a pitch to load them up for pinch-hitter J.P. Arencibia. Gregg then threw one away to let the tying run score. Arencibia then came through with a single through the left side, and that was the game!
From the Pen:
Jesse Litsch gave up the go-ahead run in the 8th on a pair of doubles, but struck out the next two batters to end the inning. Litsch then worked a scoreless 9th around a single with another strikeout and a couple of groundouts, and was rewarded for his efforts (which included getting the final out with a runner on third) with the win when the Jays came through in the 9th.
In the Field:
Dewayne Wise had several nice plays in center but also made a costly error that almost gave Baltimore an extra insurance run in the 9th inning. Henderson Alvarez threw one away early on a perfect bunt where he should've just held onto the ball. Rookie mistake, right?
Jays of the Day: Alvarez, Johnson, Loewen, Bautista, and honourable mention to Lawrie for the home run.
Today's title from the song "Easy Hearts" by Whiskeytown
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Wooooo!
Who doesn’t love a walkoff!?!!?
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What a fun ending to this game!
I think this is their 10th walkoff this year. That’s the most the Jays have had since 2000 (10). The only years they had more? 1987 with 13 and 1982 with 11. They only had 5 last year.
BTW here is a list of all Blue Jays walkoffs in franchise history.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting
John McDonald has more walk-off hits (and home runs) than Jose Bautista with the Jays.
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- Niels Bohr
10 walkoffs?
wow. I think we had like 2 last year or something.
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They only had 5 last year.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
we had FIVE last year?
i am shocked
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Neat observation
Between May 2, 2009 and Sept. 12, 2010 the Jays had 8 walkoffs. All but 1 were supplied by either Aaron Hill or Adam Lind.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The other was Lyle Overbay's homerun
against Oakland, right?
"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"
Nope that was two walkoffs before the Hill/Lind streak began. It was actually FLewis’ sac fly against Daniel Bard to score Aaron Hill on Aug 27, 2010
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn't have left.....
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I got a really nice scarf for cheap though, so that was good.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you called?
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goddammit
i’m trying to do a smiley face, but stupid reply fail is killing me
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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oh, now you work
slow clap
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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He's still 5 inches shorter than Rauch lol
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
6'6 is a perfect size
just short enough to fit through a door without headbutting the frame. Does mean you have to put up with weather jokes and other unfunny height quips though.
unfunny height quips suck. I’m at the other end of the spectrum, though. ;P
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm 6' 4" (6' 3" and a half technically, but whatever)
and I get plenty of weather up there jokes
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Someone said "built like a brick s***house", which is true.
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Jays of the Day: Alvarez, Johnson, Loewen, Bautista, and honourable mention to Lawrie for the home run.
What about JPA and Gregg?
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by Frag on Sep 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You’re right, Gregg had a +.882 WPA in favour of the Jays :-)
Also, it’s funny that Kelly Johnson (who scored the tying run) gets +.360 for Gregg’s wild pitch.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If Johnson was pinch run for
Would the pinch runner get the WPA, even though he didn’t do anything?
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yup
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Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
44 major leaguers
have had a WPA greater than +.300 for just scoring (no PA, no SB): http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/share.cgi?id=bbnfB. If there was a pinch runner for Johnson, he would have been on this list.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh. My period got placed in the link…. just delete it to get the page.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It's okay, I figured that out
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
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Let's look at the other side. Only 3 major leaguers
have had a WPA lower than -.300 for being a pinch runner (no PA, no CS): http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/share.cgi?id=xzsgu .
Joe DeMaestri of the Kansas City A’s had a -.382 WPA on August 3, 1958. According to that game’s retrosheet, DeMaestri strayed off 3B for some reason in the bottom of the 15th, 0 outs, men on the corners with the A’s down 4-3 to the Washington Senators.
It was not a stolen base attempt so he didn’t get a CS out of the affair. Both Keough (-.310) and Pierce (-.309) were picked off in a critical situation.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a hilarious ending
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Indeed it was
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
You missed JPA on the JoD
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So apparently Lawrie snorts water before he bats
And also sniffs a whole smelling salt thing. He’s ridiculous.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i hear he drinks 4 Red Bulls before every game
this worries me
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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he might actually die on us
this is serious
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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that is just wrong
not to mention gross. I’m sure he’ll grow out of it, though. you kids do dumb stuff like that
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
it sort of explains why he looks like he has ADD
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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I don't even touch Red Bull
Or any energy drink. I’ll stick to something from a plant, tyvm.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i like Monster, but I can't stand Red Bull
It honestly tastes like medicine. Monster is delicious though
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I can't stand any energy drink
They all taste so tangy and nasty.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
This too.
It also worries me. I can’t imagine that’s good for someone.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Frankly I think Redbull is better than half the stuff athletes take
It’s not meth or coke so let’s not overreact yet.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I'm not taking it too serious
Kids at my school drink red bull constantly, I don’t think it’s THAT bad for you.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's too much caffeine
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
Hahahaha
Camden Chat Recap thread title:
Blue Jays 5, Orioles 4: Is Kevin Gregg a secret Blue Jays double agent? No, he just sucks.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Friggin’ Brett Lawrie hit another home run off of Orioles pitching in the second inning, putting the Jays back on top. It was the 9th home run of Lawrie’s young career and 4th against the Orioles. It’s gonna be a lot of fun watching that kid hit against the O’s for the next several years, huh?
Feels good man.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
HAHHAHAHAAHAHAH
Gregg’s 2013 option is apparently a vesting option. someone says it vests after finishing 50 games, but its not confirmed.
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oh, okay
its vests after finishing 50 games in 2012, or finishing 100 games over 2011~2012. he has 42 now. Im pretty sure he’s going to be released soon though
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McFail
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
its probably more angelos' fault
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4.14, 4.83, 4.85
Those are his ERA, FIP, and xFIP respectively, they might not be great, but if they release him, heor the MLBPA very well might file a grievance.
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
he or*
Do you have a young, talented cost controlled player having a down year who's "attitude" has cased problems with an aging player or manager?
Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
Can someone please explain to me how fangraph evaluates Morrow to be more valuable than Romero?
Ricky’s trailing Morrow’s 3.0 with his 2.7.
Thanks in advance.
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
fWAR for pitchers uses FIP, not ERA, take a look at each players FIP and you'll find your answer
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Don't worry, I Alex Anthopoulos will take him off your hands, I'll even give you some moderately useful veterans that will "help you make a playoff run".
Was this the case last year as well?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
yes
probably
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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actually, never mind
Romero has .3 more fWAR, because he threw way more innings.
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Has? or Had?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
had
in 2010
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Why isn't that the case this year as well then?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
because ricky's peripherals are worse this year
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and he's only thrown 57.1 more innings than morrow this year
last year, he threw 64 more
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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Not as far as I can tell
As far as I can remember, his walk/strikeout, strike/thrown are about the same, but he’s getting lucky on strand rates. FIP and xFIP are the same no? And is a difference of 10 innings all that much over a season?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
his homerun rate is up
his Ks are slightly down as well. His FIP this year is 4.08. Last year it was 3.64.
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yeah the HR rate is probably a big reason why the FIP is much higher
by Sniderlover on Sep 10, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he was probably a bit too lucky on flyballs staying in the yard last
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year
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My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I dunno… 9.4 HR/FB ratio is fine. I’m guessing the increase in HR is probably due to a lot more usage of fastballs
and while his FIP is high… I’m fine with that HR rate as long as it is solo shots which for most case, it has been.
bases empty: 13
runners on: 8
RISP: 2
by Sniderlover on Sep 10, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, i thought it was way lower last year
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9.4 is almost exactly league average
his HR rate is quite a bit above league average this year
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I don't understand what that means.
Can you educate me?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
by StreakyJays on Sep 11, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The average HR/FB rate for a pitcher is 9.5%
FIP uses the pitcher’s real rate, whereas xFIP plugs in 9.5% for all pitchers.
Okay... but wasn't the whole premise that pitchers can't control their HR/FB rate?
Doesn’t it seem stupid to use that stat as the basis for WAR?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
by StreakyJays on Sep 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
pitchers can't control their HR/FB rates
but they can control their FB rates
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So because of the increase in fastballs, RR has had an increase in his FB and thus FIP?
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
by StreakyJays on Sep 11, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know if more fastballs lead to more flyballs
he’s inducing nearly as much GB as last season, but he also has a ridiculously low LD rate against him. his FB rate, therefore, has to compensate for that, so its much higher than last season. I think.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
You can't control your LD rate but you can control the FB rate?
Weird.
Once over the hill, you pick up speed.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
well
line drive rate is controllable in a general way – but once pitchers reach the majors no one has been able to show that limiting line drives is a repeatable skill.
For fly balls, it is more that pitchers can use their control and repertoire (2 seamers, etc.) to induce groundballs. Since pitchers can’t really control their line drive rate, the more grounders you are getting, the fewer fly balls there are, ceteris paribus of course.
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I'm just surprised he got a hit!
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Open chat for minor league playoffs here.
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I might just head over there. Scientific notation is boring.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
homework or class
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homework. It’s not due for a while, but I’m trying to not procrastinate.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What does it mean to "not procrstinate"?
I didn’t even know that was possible.
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"not procrastinate", even.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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up til now it hasn’t been possible. We’ll see how it goes.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what I say every Septemeber
Every. Single. Year.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
/sigh
it’s worth trying, at least. Also this crap is easy, it’s just really annoying.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
wasn’t trying to depress ya, love
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
whoa
this is getting serious really fast.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
its only serious if you make it serious
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
and that by that, I mean,
yes, this is serious business.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
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Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
i won't
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
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Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I love how many Keanu Reeves Whoa faces there are
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Keanu Reeves is Canadian
I had no idea
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Sad Keanu
go.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
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Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
ahahaha
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
dammit
he got cut off
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
seriously
I was just gonna post that one. It’s my favourite.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this one is pretty well made too
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
omg
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
wow
some people are amazing
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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it just looks so real
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
sad keanu on swing
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
some people have too much time on their hands
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
This picture is legendary..I would poop myself being up there.
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Is that from The Day the Earth Stood Still? That movie was only bearable because Keanu Reeves got to play himself in it, and that made me laugh.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, no.
I’m pretty sure its from Matrix.
were you referring to mine or yours?
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
its when he learns Kung Fu I think
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
matrix
duh
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
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its when he gets the plug off the back of his head
after he learns kung fu
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
oh. well I’ve only seen it once, gosh.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never met anyone who's only watched the matrix just once
its such a mind**** movie, you have to watch it at least twice
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I've never seen the whole movie.
Just random parts here and there.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, I don't know what to say, other than
SMFH
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
worth watching
for culture references if nothing else.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
*cough* goody two shoes *cough*
:)
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Who's excited for Dustin's start tomorrow?!
I tried to get my dad to buy me tickets but it didn’t work :(
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 8:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
sneak in
or find 10 dollars around ur house shouldnt be too too hard
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thats how im goin
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Sneak in?!
I would be deathly afraid.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
don't you live in hamilton though?
gonna drive all the way?
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
First, that sounded pretty creepy.
Second, it’s only like a 45 minute drive, or like an hour on the GO bus.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 8:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree, that was a bit creepy
Hamliton always feels like a billion kilometres away, even though its right there.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Not to sound like I don't like where I live
But one of the best things about Hamilton is it’s proximity to both the US and Toronto.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have to try not to sleep on it all the time.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang
Just realized I’ll probably miss it. I have to teach tomorrow then I’m babysitting. Joy.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the 31st time the Jays are at .500
The ultimate mediocre team.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 10:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
and as of right now
no protected pick.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Fire Anthopoulos
Fire Farrell
Fire Rogers!!!!!
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Relocate to New York
they need another team there
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
THE MEME SPREADS!
Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
ARE YOU F#$%ING KIDDING ME!!!! ADAMS!!! JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST YOU HAD 24 SQUARE FEET AND YOU MISSED IT ALL!! - OlenWhitaker
Certified Grabbo Lover, though only by accident.
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Just helping the Pirates fan takeover along.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep yep.
Someday, this meme will be on every single blog.
Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
ARE YOU F#$%ING KIDDING ME!!!! ADAMS!!! JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST YOU HAD 24 SQUARE FEET AND YOU MISSED IT ALL!! - OlenWhitaker
Certified Grabbo Lover, though only by accident.
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I don’t even get what this is a response to. But feel free to continue
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
because mediocrity means we're the worst team in the world
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
idiots
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Being at .500 is actually pretty good in MLB. It’s just crazy that the Jays have played so consistently. Never too hot and never too cold.
by Nadia on Sep 10, 2011 10:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
tell to that to "Jamie from Huntsville"
or “David from Ottawa”
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Bob McCown from the Fan590
Follow me @BBBMinorLeaguer | 2011 Jays record while in attendance: 9-11 (.450)
by Minor Leaguer on Sep 10, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I cannot stand him
I only listen when KLaw’s on.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 10, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?..Mr. Knowitall...the all wise and
erstwhile legal beagle? He does have the most listened to radio sports program in all of ………..zzzzzzzzz
you don't actually not like him, right?
I only know of very small few who dislike KLaw. And most of them are idiots.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I don’t think the folks over at Drunk Jays Fans like him very much, either.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
well, I know dustin and stoeten like him a lot
most of the commenters there are trolls anyways
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Really?
It seems like every time I read a post of theirs relating to Law, it’s usually in a negative fashion.
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
really?
I don’t feel that at all. They like to joke on him, but they usually reference his stuff a lot.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Interesting
I should read more DJF
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
well, Getting Blanked is much better than DJF now
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
meh
its stupid comedy. I find Getting Blanked funnier.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
oh, okay
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Just like Kyle Drabek was the future last September
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Are you implying Brett Lawrie isn't the future, either?
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
clearly
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I'm implying there needs to be more stink made about Henderson...
Not less about Lawrie.
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got a stink!
Henderson should try hitting the batters when necessary, but his pitches will just move back into the strike zone
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
He still is
Roy Halladay was sent back down… so was Cecil… they both found their groove.
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Come now...lets not slide Roy & Cecil down the same groowve...not yet anyway.
Roy keeps himself in impeccable shape….Cecil needs to exercise a bit or not chow so much.
Roy isn't good because he keeps himself in impeccable shape
he’s good because he’s freaking amazing at throwing baseballs and keeps himself in impeccable shape
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more accurately
the fact that he is in impeccable shape is caused by the same things that make him awesome, rather than being the cause of his awesomeness
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
You know Doc struggled worse than Drabek to start off his career, right? Whether or not he’s the future is unclear, but he still has a very real chance at it.
"Who are you and how the hell did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith... and i'm a locksmith."
he did?!
I had NO IDEA
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Oh my.
I think you need to get your detector fixed.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Sarcasm over the internet doesn't work
And what exactly were you trying to say then?
Even though Drabek proved more in his initial MLB stint than Roy Halladay, he should be frowned upon and penciled in as a career AAA pitcher?
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Just trying to temper some expectations down here
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Well get them back up
He has as good a chance of doing something in the MLB as Lawrie, Thames or Henderson.
He isn’t damaged goods or past his prime, he has improved a lot in AAA (Walks are down)
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I NEVER SAID HE DIDN'T
I just want y’all to not annoint anyone as “THE FUTURE”, since pitchers are so volatile. Especially young starting pitchers.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
THATS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY
I agree though. Pitchers are the most volatile, if I (DW THIS WON’T HAPPEN) was GM I’d never sign a pitcher longer than 3 years (I didn’t come up with that on my own, I heard it somewhere…)
Also as far as prospects, between injuries and funny movement, some pitches and some repertoires can work great in AA but be smoked in the bigs.
I’m just saying good performances by a 21 year old pitcher are crazy impressive to me and that Drabek guy who got all of our hopes up last year should do the same this year.
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
got it
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Okay
Just checking :D
Need any other lessons? :D :D
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if you knew (assuming you were being sarcastic), you should realize why what you said makes little sense.
"Who are you and how the hell did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith... and i'm a locksmith."
Thats like saying
every decent prospect that failed and became a utility player is going to end up hitting 50 bombs, because Bautista did it.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
18 games is typically how long it takes to judge players careers
Also, beyond the age of 23, a pitcher may NOT improve.
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
exactement
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Glad we established those FACTS
lol but really
Drabek shouldn’t be held back because he struggled for 18 games.
by Mike Andrew on Sep 10, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm agreeing with you, but
he struggled for an entire season, actually. I have a fair bit of faith that he’ll bounce back and have a pretty good 2012, but it’s not just the MLB games in which Kyle was quite bad
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No, that example is a lot more extreme.
the simple facts are Drabek is an elite prospect, and many elite prospects have struggled out of the gate to varying degrees only to go on to have very successful careers. Passing judgment on Drabek at this point is foolish.
"Who are you and how the hell did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith... and i'm a locksmith."
i wasn't trying to say much about drabek
but rather about volatility of young starting pitchers.
but, sure, all your points are valid.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
>Boston
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
Boston right now

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Sep 10, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ooh
I stil doubt the rays will overtake them. It’d be nice though.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
they have such a crappy rotation that I think it might be possible now lol
by Sniderlover on Sep 10, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
4.5 back, so not impossible, but highly unlikely.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 11, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
OT - lol notre dame
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
That game...
Is an instant classic. Not only is it the first night game at the Big House, but there were 3 TDs scored in the final 1:22 (and none on returns!)
"Do not ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do that. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive." - Howard Thurman
by Jeremiah Stanghini on Sep 11, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
If you haven't seen JP's postgame interview, you need to.
Does a classic hockey interview, even gets a hockey stick as a prop. Awesome stuff.
by transmogrifier on Sep 11, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah I saw it. Good stuff. I like his personality
by Sniderlover on Sep 11, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.sportsnet.ca/video/36651949001/40415880001/MLB-Arencibias-hockey-mentality
"Captain Picard Day is for the children."
Just a quick point about how stats can be flawed at times
Im trying to remember exactly when it was…I think it was in the 3rd inning with C Davis upto bat. I dont remember the count—-I want to say 3-2. Alverez had set him up perfectly for changeup inside. If his life was on the line—-Im pretty sure he throws a changeup in that situation. Instead, The Jays trying to “develop” that slider and make him throw that. He tumbles it and leaves it up and get wacked. His line looks alot worse because of trying to “develop” this pitch in games. That said—-Alverez didnt have his crazy movement…left pitches up all game….was “playing around” with his new pitch….Despite all that he gives a Quality start!! Im impressed if this is what we are gonna get on a BAD START.
changeup inside
in the history of baseball, has anyone ever intentionally thrown a changeup inside?
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by hugo on Sep 12, 2011 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
a stat is flawed because despite (possibly) not pitching optimally, he still pitched well and was credited as such?
Science!
by Gerse on Sep 12, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What I mean specifically is that..
a week or more from now that game and that situation will be forgotten. When people argue about Alverez compared to personX they will only have “stats” to look at. Meanwhile—Ill remember a guy that was freezing lefty’s with a fastball that would start at them and break on the inside part of the plate and a change up that was breaking straight down into the dirt. Clearly Molina called for a slider in a situation that a change up in the dirt on the inside would have gotten a swinging strike. It came at a critical point in the game—it cost him a hit, a run and probably the win. Who knows how many hits/runs Alverez will give up the rest of the year not throwing his best pitches in critical situations just to develop a 3rd pitch. Just Sayin…
this sounds highly anectodal
we have no idea what happened on the field. we don’t know what molina called and we don’t know if alvarez made a mistake pitch or was trying to throw a specific pitch to develop it.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL

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