Jon Rauch Done for 2011
by jessef on Sep 12, 2011 5:18 PM EDT
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MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2011
TORONTO, ONTARIO
BLUE JAYS RHP JON RAUCH DONE FOR THE SEASON
The TORONTO BLUE JAYS have placed RHP JON RAUCH on the 15-day disabled list with right knee cartilage tear, retroactive to September 5th.
RAUCH, 32, is 5-4 with 11 saves with an ERA of 4.85 in 53 games this season, his first with the Blue Jays. The 6-10, 250 lb. right-handed pitcher will visit knee specialist Dr. Richard Steadman in Vail, Colorado to be evaluated early next week. Should Dr. Steadman confirm the Blue Jays medical staff recommendation of surgery, he will perform the procedure at that time. The recovery time should be six to eight weeks which will allow for full recovery prior to the 2012 spring training season.
What would you all do with him this offseason?
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Rauch seems like the 2011 version of Kevin Gregg. Needs to get up 0-1 with a high ’80’s outside fastball, and if the location is off, batters seem to tee off. No need to waste a roster spot with such a marginal reliever.
he had a not terrible year
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I thought he had like a 3.5 FIP
3.57 FIP, though got lucky on HRs, and 3.7 SIERA. pretty good
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honestly?
wow, I thought he had a DIPS over 4
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Fare thee well.
Unless there was a handshake deal on arbitration, you decline to offer arbitration and wish him well.
If it is obvious that we won’t offer arbitration the Jays can make a deal to offer arbitration and have him decline, since unlike in Type ‘A’ situations it won’t have an effect on his free agent value.
by JaysSaskatchewan on Sep 12, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
perfect
He’ll be undervalued this offseason. Does he have an option? If so, decline him and lowball him. I’d be happy with having him back for $2 M
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wait a sec
he was signed for 3.5?! wow. I think we could get him for 1 million.
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He has a $3.75 million club option, $250k buyout
If I was GM I would decline his option, then bring him back on a cheap deal. He is a Type B, so if there’s a gentlemen’s agreement that he would decline, I’d offer him arbitration then let him go. But what are the chances are that a reliever coming off of a poor year and a knee injury would decline arbitration?
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 12, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, I'd be scared to offer him arbitration
no doubt he won’t get a raise, but I don’t want him for 3.5 million
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If we don’t offer him arbitration he gets no benefit (unlike Type A’s). If we offer him something to decline he receives a benefit.
by JaysSaskatchewan on Sep 12, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
While that's all well and good,
when have you “offered” him enough to decline? He won’t likely get a downgrade in pay through arbitration and I can’t imagine anyone paying more than 1.5 M or so. I don’t know that it’s worth it to offer him $2M just to get the pick. And what if he changes his mind? Then we’re bringing him back for $3.75M and we don’t get a pick . . .
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What I’m saying is that if we don’t offer arbitration he gets nothing. At this point it is pretty obvious that we won’t offer arbitration. So in comparison to ‘nothing’ even a bag of baseballs would be better.
by JaysSaskatchewan on Sep 12, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
but if we offer him a bag of baseballs to decline arbitration and then we offer him arbitration, what’s to prevent him from saying, “Welp, your mistake!” and accepting arbitration, leaving us on the hook?
I guess we could immediately cut him and only owe him one month’s salary, but I don’t think the players’ union would let us get away with something like that.
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That could happen too. I think the agent would have to be involved though. Anything like that could make it difficult for the agent to make similar deals in the future. Are there many instances in the past of players rejecting arbitration when normally it would have been in their best interest to accept?
by JaysSaskatchewan on Sep 12, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a good question
off-hand, I don’t know
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Its not so much the agent but the union.
They go bug-eyed (no rauch pun intended) at any side deal/home discount arrangement which impacts on the lowering of remunerations.
I think there have
been instances in which a team with a good relationship with a player found out in advance whether the player would accept arbitration if offered, but I can’t think of an example where they reached an agreement for the player to decline when he otherwise would have accepted.
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I think there are better options than Rauch internally and externally
Don’t want him back
for 1 million?
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Does this mean we have a roster spot open?
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Nope, he was placed on the 15- not 60-day DL
Same thing with Snider. I guess AA didn’t need the open spots on the 40-man.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 12, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the chances he lands on the O's roster next season
…Rauch setup man for Gregg….cruel.
Awesomeness
The Nats rookie gag
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by Pikachu on Sep 12, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love how Strasburg is super-fit
and Wang’s face
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Which one is Strasburg?
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red pants
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Hes got some solid pecs..
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I'm pretty sure they're leggings..
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wow thats alot of rookies
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not all are rookies
some are just new Nats
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like Jayson Werth
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oh ok, i was like are they all rookies
I guess that would explain why for the Jays picture, one of the trainers was in there
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Is it old news that AA doesn't want Prince?
I just heard about it :( Now I’m upset.
maybe he is lying
and then he’ll shock everyone by signing him.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he'll do some other awesome things..
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Maybe he will sign you to play CF
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I'll have to move to South America for that to happen I think..?
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I thought maybe it was to drive Prince's price down
But apparently AA wants ‘athletic players’ so I’m now convinced we are signing Jose Reyes who solves a bigger problem.
Reyes is athletic like a plate of china
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by Pikachu on Sep 12, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mmmmmmm.......Jose Reyes on the Jays...*drool.
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you can throw it really far
but you know it’ll break when it falls
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maybe he'll save the world from the Rapture
wait, he did that already
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apparently
it’s gonna be in October now.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It sort of fits the "athletic" image that Anthopoulos has going on
But who knows. If he wants fielder, i say go for it
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since 1B is one of our black holes right now
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1B/DH actually
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Perhaps AA is "All-In"
on Pujols.
Nice… let’s start that little rumour right here at BBB, shall we?
by TrueBlue4Ever! on Sep 12, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
AA sponsors for Adidas?
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That seems to be anti-every move AA has made.
But who knows. He seems more like a trades kind of guy.
AA is known to make the biggest moves ...
consistently since he came on board iwth the Jays. Signing Pujols or a star-calibre player like him is just part of AA’s evolution as a GM. Maybe he’ll do it by trade but we still need pitching, hence my follow up post down below.
I’m big on Yu by the way. AA needs to be in on that one!
by TrueBlue4Ever! on Sep 12, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
AA is known to make the ridiculously smart moves
signing Pujols to a 10 year deal is not smart. neither is signing Fielder, really, but its not as bad.
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Why 10 years?
I’m sure that numbers and years can be worked out on better scales than that of 10 years. A-Rod’s deal was different, Pujols can only do a deal like that with the Cardinals, the team he has played for his entire career. You can’t imagine he is going to work a MLB sponsored legacy deal like A-Rod with any other team than the Cards. Since we are envisioning Pujols with the Jays, for the sake of that alone we don’t need to suggest Pujols would ONLY sign for a 10 year contract. Such contracts are unheard of, anyways.
i think 6-8 year contract offers will be made for Pujols but the compensation for this shortened contract will be IMMENSE to say the least. Pujols is freakin’ awesome and his record backs him up. You gotta figure a team is going to end up departing with at least 180 million over 7 years for him. That is likely a reasonable window of what he is going to sign for, give or take 10 million and 1 or 2 years on the contract.
by TrueBlue4Ever! on Sep 12, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
The cards already offered an 8 year deal to Pujols, and he rejected it, supposedly
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Maybe he wants out of St. Louis....A change of scenery is always nice no matter who you are!
My guess, Pujols will sign for probably a 7 yr/180-185. It could also be 8 years and 200 million.
About Pujols, he is a bonafide Future Hall of Famer, I think AA has to go after Pujols if he hits the market, I honestly don’t see him passing by an opportunity to acquire such a player. Players like Pujols come by once or twice in a generation. With that said, his last decade wasn’t as good as Alex Rodriguez’s. He won’t be able to command that automatic 10 year contract the way some people are playing it… well, he probably could with Washington , but i don’t see it happening.
by TrueBlue4Ever! on Sep 12, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols doesn't want out of St. Louis
Pujols wants $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
pujols won't sign for under 200...
why would he reject the 210 (supposedly) deal st louis offered?
Players like Pujols come by once or twice in a generation, sure. but he’s also 31 (or more, who knows). Now is not the ideal time to throw truckloads of money for him
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Pujols isn't happening because someone will overpay
Pujols is, and should be, looking for A-Rod money. Someone will give it to him, that’s how the free agent market works.
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Pujols Pujols Pujols!!!
Oh and don’t forget to pick up Yu Darvish & CJ Wilson while your out, Alex.
YEAH!!!
No?
you’re not a fan of Wilson, eh?
I am willing to listen to other names but based on the free agency list it is going to be slim pickings for pitching this off-season…that was why i put Wilson up there with Yu….
by TrueBlue4Ever! on Sep 12, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilson's fine
but he’s old, I don’t think he’d be that good in the AL East, and he’s both too old and not good enough to warrant the money and years he’ll command, IMO
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he's old?
isn’t he 32 next year? not that old.
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if its like a 3 year deal, i'd be fine with that.
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you'd be fine paying $10M (guess)
for a 34 year old only-pretty-good pitcher to start over Henderson Alvarez?
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he probably won't be starting over alvarez though
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Pitchers really get old in a hurry after 32 in the non-steroid era
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that's partially true
but Wilson has spent most of his career as a reliever (not that they don’t go downhill in their early 30’s either, but I’d think there’s a different reason for that — essentially, they were never as good in the first place) so he’s only got 700 major league innings on his arm. Even including his minor league career (400 ip), we’re still only looking at a total of 1100 innings, so I’d think he might be a better bet to pitch fairly well over a medium term (say, 4 yr) deal than you’d think just by looking at his age.
I’m not endorsing the team signing or passing on him, just pointing out some relevant information for those who are arguing for or against him.
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good points
Wilson’s arm may have more left in it than other pitcher’s his age. I don’t care for str8edgeracer (his twitter handle) personally. I’ve heard that his own teammates don’t like him because of his arrogant personality. Judging by his twitter account postings, I can see where that comes from.
I also have doubts about how he would do against the Yanks and Red Sox (for that matter, the O’s or Rays too) on a regular basis. Facing the Angels, A’s and Mariners is one thing, the AL East is another.
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this is funny
http://revision3.com/pennpoint/jerryspringer
sort of NSFW
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does it have very much JS in it?
I can’t stand that show. It’s pure garbage.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
not really
none, actually. Mentions Jerry once or twice, but its not about him
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gah
homework
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the fact that I don't have an excuse to not do it (baseball) makes it worse
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no procrastinating!
I’ll be doing homework all night too.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no procrastinating?
thats unpossible!
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Say you fainted because Daniel Norris uses the term 'cool beans'
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@Matt_Dean_10 cool beans I’ll be there Wednesday
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well I saw it on my own twitter feed, but sure, you’re awesome too.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
YES!
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i don't follow ball players, so I did not know that
but that is cool beans
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HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!
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why? all they do is respond to random people's tweets.
they’re boring. Other than select few like McCarthy
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you should
Matt Dean will tell you you’re cute.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He told you that too...
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good thing i'm bi-curious
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gah........I have homework also...
gah………I miss playing baseball.
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Ugh...I hate how everyone is talking about football, my team is the Colts...and I have no idea what is going on..
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all this OT talk should be in the OT thread!
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Sep 12, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
football talk?
ban
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That is not football talk....
Football talk is like…“ohh…man…that was a sick debut by Cam Newton..blah,blah,blah..”
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but it has the words "footbal" and "Colts" in it
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whos tom brady
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is he a running back
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so you liek david beckham eh
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something..
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Are you swooned by this Emily?
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This too?
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This does for sure though..
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yeah
I’m just gonna stare at that for awhile.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
they look good in suits
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Doesn't everyone look good in a suit?
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How rude!
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Been checking out that mirror lately, huh?
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be strong, my love!
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false
I am the evidence
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I love when people rip on themselves, it makes me laugh.
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you should talk to me more often
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I tweeted you today....but you never replied... :'(
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haven't been on twitter lately
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SMFH..
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not being 15 is hard bro
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Noted.
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You haven't hung around with lawyers
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Not everybody looks good in a suit.
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No Peyton Manning...
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/crying face….both of our back-ups blow..
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whos dat
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This guy that is good at football I guess..
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wat position duz he play
is he runing bak
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no, hes playz cornorbak
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wuts a cornorbak
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My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
is dat liek runing bak
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
itz like a guy who sometimez tacklez teh runing bak, but he usualey cvers teh wide receverz.
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wait i dont get it
why isnt he at a corner
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
Because Emily hates us right now....
riht?
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nah
I’ll probably watch the Tom Bradys tonight.
by leaflover4ever on Sep 12, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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by the way
if you’re looking for some good music, check out Artificial Heart by JoCo. Its totally awesome.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
off days are so boring
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
I didn't like the Rauch signing to begin with
but after the Kevin Gregg (another move I didn’t like) thing worked out, I was okay with it. But Gregg had good K rates and slight flyball tendencies. Rauch is a “closer” with awful groundball numbers and who doesn’t strike people out. I’m sure he won’t continue to give up almost 2 home runs per 9 innings, but with his weak stuff and flyball tendencies, he’ll give up plenty, particularly in the AL East. I don’t particularly want to take a chance he comes back.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
his approach seemed to have actually changed
his location has been totally different from last year.
Sad, Drunk, And Poorly
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - JL
On a side note, Lansing wins 8-7 in the bottom of the 9th with a bases loaded from Canadian Michael Crouse. Going for the championship now!
bases loaded walk , you mean :-)
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 12, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah my bad… somehow I forgot to write walk
by Sniderlover on Sep 12, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Woo
Go Lugnuts go.
Beat the Quad City River Bandits (one of my favorite Minor League Team Names.)
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Sep 13, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
3 reasons baseball is the best out of the 4 major sports
GO
by Nadia on Sep 13, 2011 9:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
ok
1) no mindless violence. I’m looking at you football and hockey. Who wants to watch subpar guys play because one of the league’s premier talents got concussed?
2) no clock. The game, as Yogi Berra said, “ain’t over til it’s over”.
3) the stats. Whether you’re an old school RBIs and pitcher wins kind of person or you like the latest advanced statistic from Fangraphs, baseball attracts the type of person that likes and will use numbers to advance their argument about which player is better rather than just relying on “he’s gritty!” Even the people who like David Eckstein will cite his batting average rather than just saying he’s a scrappy gamer.
Hic sunt fortuna dracones
there exist lots of advanced stats
for other sports too, but I do know what you’re getting at
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I think your 2) is overrated.
Does a team really have a chance of coming back when its 10-1 in the ninth, just because there’s no clock? Theoretically, yes. Practically, no.
by Defense Counts! on Sep 13, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
but that's the extreme case
in football if a team is ahead they start trying to run out the clock when there’s like 1/4 of the game still to go, even if the score is relatively close
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
1) Pacing. You can read a book while you watch and not miss anything important.
2) Consistency. You don’t have to check the standings every day, or even every year; the Yankees and Red Sox are still out in front.
3) History. No matter how amazing a feat is (e.g. losing a no-hitter or turning an unassisted triple play or pitching an entire season without inducing a double play) it’s all been done before.
please read this with a sense of playfulness
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Sep 13, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll play
1) No sport where 1 guy can beat 9/10.
2) I love the hitter/pitcher matchups. It seems insane to non-math folks, but I enjoy them despite SSS.
3) Nothing like a pennant race (haven’t felt that in almost 9 years… hey the Jays were sort of close a couple of years during the Carlos Delgado era but not that close.)
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Sep 13, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1) Cheapest of the 4 per game to go to
2) So many stats to talk about and calculate and be nerdy with
3) I can actually play baseball.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 13, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
1. The pace of baseball is perfect for summer, relaxing with moments of extreme tension and then release. A great game is similar to a great piece of music.
2. Not nearly as lame as basketball and (particularly) football in the incessant marketeering. I hate being marketed to.
3. I like the day-in, day-out aspect of baseball. You can’t just tune in once a week.
A bonus reason 4. Years of toiling in the minor leagues tends to breed a certain discipline and humbleness in most (certainly not all) players, which is nice to see in professional athletes. Top prospects may be destined for greatness, but they still have to spend years playing in front of a few thousand people. The NCAA means that top football and basketball players are thrown into a huge spotlight right out of high school.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman
by hugo on Sep 13, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
not that I'm an expert on some things
but don’t “football factory” high schools draw several thousand fans even when the kids are 16 years old?
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1. There probably isn’t any other sport where a guy can be successful 4/10 times and be considered tremendous..(in terms of OBP)
2. A very long season, your able to watch a game almost every day in the summer, I love it!
3. Players can be drafted out of highschool (I use to watch hockey a lot, then I started watching baseball, last year I found out players in highschool could be drafted, I was amazed, like imagine that…if I was super good at baseball, I could be drafted in 3 years..or if I was Dominican or from somewhere in South America, I could be signed next year like Roberto Ozuna)
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1) What about scoring percentage among NHL snipers?
I don’t have the stats in front of me, but I believe it’s less than 30% for the best scorers.
by Defense Counts! on Sep 13, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what I was thinking of too.
It’s definitely lower than 30%. I think it’s more like ~15%
by Nadia on Sep 13, 2011 5:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah....most are around 20%, but shooting percentage is nowhere close to as big of a deal as average in baseball..
So in that way, it’s kind of uncomparable.
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It should be a bigger deal, when it comes to importance to the game.
A goal in hockey is (usually) more important to the outcome of the game than a walk in baseball.
by Defense Counts! on Sep 13, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you to everyone for their great ideas.
I have four short essays to write on baseball due thursday.
PLAGIARIST!
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 13, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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