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There is a nice piece up at the Boston Herald web site (h/t MLB Trade Rumors) about the Jays and Alex Anthopoulos. The money line is Alex saying:

Free agency is the last route we want to go. At some point we'll have to start delving into it a little more, but I still want to try to avoid it at all costs.

So I guess we can give up on the little fantasy of signing Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder. I figured Pujols was a long shot, partly because of questions about his age. He is listed as 31 but many think he is older than that. I can't see Alex spending the kind of money Pujols would want if there was any question about his age. 

I think that saying you won't use free agency is kind of silly, you should be willing to use any strategy available to you, but I do get the point, signing players, that are past their best before date, to large contracts, isn't the best idea for a team building for the future, but I think saying you aren't going to use a strategy allowed you is like a manager saying he isn't going to pinch hit. 

Alex also says that the problem with being in the AL East isn't the money the Yankees and Red Sox can spend, it is that the other GM's are smart. He'd much prefer to be in one of the other divisions where the guys running the teams are stupid. No he didn't say that last part, just implied. 

John Farrell has told reporters that it is unlikely the Jays will be calling up Adeiny Hechavarria, as he hasn't played for a couple of weeks. It is more likely they would call up Jonathan Diaz, whose team just finished playing. Diaz would have to be added to the 40-man roster, while Adeiny is already on it. With a guy as young as Hechavarria, does 2 weeks away from ball really make all that much difference?

They are talking about this because the swelling in Yunel's elbow is getting worse instead of better. X-rays still show no damage but I'm guessing it will be a week before he plays again. By then we will be close to being out of games left to play. McCoy hasn't been terrible at short and Chris Woodward could play if needed. But I'd be all for getting Hechavarria on the roster, since the team is on the road, after Thursday. That would only leave 6 games but at least he would get a taste of what the big leagues are like. 

None of our call ups are in the lineup today. I'd like Farrell to move Thames out of the 2 spot. He's in a bit of a slump, batting .157/.232/.255 with just 3 extra base hits in September. His OPS+ has dropped to 102. It seems like he's had a few little nagging injuries of late. He has played a fair bit of ball this year. At least one position will be interesting to watch next spring training.

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I don’t see the comments about free agency as anything other than the line they’ve been pushing since the beginning. AA has shown he’s more than willing to duck into the FA market already. I think it’s more underscoring the fact that he doesn’t see it as a core way to build the club to get the talent he wants.

Also, a nice way to underline that using Toronto’s name as leverage for the off season by agents isn’t going to fly very well.

by dexfarkin on Sep 18, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

If he wasn’t interested in the free agent market, then Japan was a big waste of money and time.

by Joey P on Sep 18, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

You also don’t know who else AA may have been scouting.

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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 18, 2011 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

posted players aren't exactly free agents

but they can still be super-expensive

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our closed rooms... The game of ball is glorious." - Walt Whitman

by hugo on Sep 18, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't comment often, but I was just wondering

Isn’t free agency not so much a means of building a team but finding complimentary performers for the talent already in place? Obviously Anthopolous doesn’t want to go out and sign three ten year, $300 million contracts. The team would be good for a few years, and then dramatically deteriorate. However, wouldn’t picking up a guy like Fielder make sense in the way that picking up Victor Martinez for the Tigers this past off-season made sense?

To solidify a questionable 3/4 spot in the line-up for a feared power hitter that is being walked far too often because the rest of the line-up just isn’t good enough? For the Tigers, it was an anemic offense once you got passed Miguel Cabrera, for the Jays, its a semi-anemic offense once you get passed Jose Bautista.

So, while Fielder or another big bat would probably be a hefty, hefty price tag, doesn’t it even out if it allows you to capitalize on Bautista’s production right now, rather than have a handful of years essentially wasted while waiting for prospects that may or may not pan out?

Just curious…

by eight_legged_freaks on Sep 18, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I am not sure if I would read too much into it. AA does not like to attract attention to himself, so it would be natural for him to make a comment against the idea of this just to put himself out of the picture. He still may look into the issue if all we need is that one guy to put us over the top offensively. He didn’t say he wouldn’t, he just said he doesn’t like the idea of spending a fortune in free agency. I can only imagine what one more bat like a Pujols or a Fielder could do for us.

by Joey P on Sep 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's what I was thinking about at work.

The Yankees have a trifecta in Granderson, Texeira and A-Rod, with great production also coming out of Cano, and good production coming from guys like Swisher and, though his BABIP is astronomical, Jeter.

The Red Sox have a trifecta in Pedroia, Gonzalez and Ellsbury, with great production also coming from Ortiz and Crawford, and good production from Youkilis.

The Jays? Well, they have great production coming from Bautista, and good (possibly great) production from guys like Rasmus and, to a lesser extent, Arencibia. I think at least one bat is a must if we’re going anywhere during Bautista’s prime.

by eight_legged_freaks on Sep 18, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Lawrie! :-)

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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 18, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m just wondering how many Pujols-type years he has left. It must be correspondant to the Jays contention plans. If the Jays think they can nake a legitimate run between 2013 and 2018, whichever star they sign as a FA must produce at top level throughout that period.

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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 18, 2011 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is the sort of philosophical comment AA often makes, but I suspect there’s a desire to remain below the radar mixed in as well.

by gabrielsyme on Sep 18, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Adeiny.....

in the big leagues..

Not changing my signature until Hechavarria is promoted to the big leagues.
[Funny phrase about how few followers I have on Twitter]

by Joey Kirby on Sep 18, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess I should return my Fielder jersey then...

And my advance copy of the depth chart featuring Brett Lawrie to second and Dustin McGowan as closer.

Such a waste of money…

by eight_legged_freaks on Sep 18, 2011 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

AA doesn't mean free agency

Like free agency. He means free agency like Pujols and Fielder size acquisitions.

Hes always been good with relievers and stop gap players.

by Mike Andrew on Sep 18, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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