An Interesting Bit of Strategy in Last Night's Game
I wanted to go back and talk about a moment in last night's game, I touched on it in the recap, but it was interesting and I wanted to open it to discussion.
In the bottom of the 8th inning, with the score tied, one out, nobody on, John Farrell pinch hit for Adam Loewen, who was playing RF with JP Arencibia. We didn't score in the inning
Now the normal move would have been to put Dewayne Wise into the game to play right, either in Loewen/Arencibia's spot in the order or let JP stay in and catch and put Wise in Molina's spot. Instead Farrell decided to move his DH, Jose Bautista to right and put his pitcher into Loewen's spot in the batting order.
Now in the game thread we were worried this meant it was possible that a pitcher would have to bat in an important moment in the game, but this being September, Farrell still had 4 batters on the bench, so he had someone to hit for the pitcher for the next 4 times through the order, if the game went that long. Since that would have meant extra inning and odds are, if the game went that long, there wouldn't have been much scoring in extras, he would have had batters for, 8 or so innings. If the game went 17 innings or more, then he might have to deal with the problem of a pitcher batting. Not many games go that long.
What did he gain by doing it this way? Well, instead of Wise batting next time that spot came around in the order, he could choose the pinch hitter he wanted to use. He could match up. Not that he had great bats on the bench, but the only time that spot came up, he had Mark Teahen (a lefty batter, if batter is the right term for Teahen) against the right handed pitcher. I'd rather he have used Cooper but that's me.
So, the good part about the way Farrell choose to play it was that he got to match up against what ever pitcher was in the game and that was worth more to Farrell than the slight chance that he might have to let a pitcher bat. I like the move, it shows that Farrell was thinking ahead.
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Yep I was thinking that it was a great strategy too
And if it was a situation where a sacrifice bunt was warranted and the pitcher was coming up I would imagine that Farrell could have used the pitcher to bunt the runner over and then bring him back for a second inning. Losing the DH after the 9th inning during September is no big loss, especially since there are plenty of bats and relievers available.
When a guy sitting in front of me was wondering whether Carreno would come up to bat I said “no, Farrell will send Cooper in”. I guess I was wrong there…
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That with a runner on second there was no one he would rather have up than David Cooper, so I was curious that Farrell perfered Teahen.
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by Tom Dakers on Sep 23, 2011 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This would have been a very different situation if the rosters were not expanded. I like seeing the kids get a shot at the end of the season, but it changes the way the game is played and in fact could impact a playoff race. As we saw during the recent Yankees series, they have so many arms in the pen that they can almost get any match up that they want. I would like to see their be a cap on the number of players that can be called up in Sept.
by Al Bundy is my hero on Sep 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
15, no?
and it’s to get young guys a chance to keep playing baseball for another month. MiLB regular seasons ends right at the beginning of September.
Yep, there is still a cap of 40 men on the major league roster
It’s just that in September you are not restricted to 25 men on the active roster.
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by Minor Leaguer on Sep 23, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see it capped at 5
No team in a playoff race should be allowed to play against the JV team that the Twins fielded last week. Back when there was only 2 divisions and no wild cards, you could argue that the expanded roster had less of an impact on a playoff position.
by Al Bundy is my hero on Sep 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this the first thread...
…on any Jay’s blog…on any part of the intertubes… that has started out giving Farrell at least a little praise?
Seriously, I’ve seen so very little positive from Jay’s fans about Farrell that it is refreshing to see – at least, an attempt – to give him any kudos. Although the Farrell punching does almost immediately rear its sweet little head.
he was given kudos for learning to use Dotel properly
I just hope he continues to learn from his mistakes (McCoy-Thames 1-2?). if he does, that’s really all we can ask of him
I don't think Farrell is a bad manager
But like most, he does do stupid things from time to time.
Using Mark Teahen would be one of them.
I initially had a problem with this move. But batting Wise muliple times is no good
either, but the only problem still is that if a pitcher is pitching well and he is up to bat in the bottom then you can’t pitch him multiple innings. But again it still is September and they might have done it on purpose just to put certain people in situations they weren’t familiar with.

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