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Nothing much out there for Blue Jay news, yet again, so I thought I'd just put up an open thread and let folks talk about whatever they would like.

If you want an off-topic subject to start it off, tell us how your new year's resolutions are coming. Me? Well, I've got the boring one, I'm working to get back in shape. I've been a runner for the past 15 years or so, but the past year I've been lazy and haven't been at it. Add in Christmas and a trip to Jamaica and I'm up a few pounds.

I really need a goal to make myself work out, so I'm signing up for a half-marathon in June. Registration for it doesn't open until the end of the month so I have a couple of weeks see that can get running first. I've been to the gym each day since last Saturday seeing if I can get all the parts moving.

Anyway, tell us about how your resolution is going or anything else you'd like to talk about.

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Love the countdown wigit on the side bar!!!

I’m doing pretty much the same thing for resolutions…try to get back in shape and stay that way the whole year. I’ve joined a learn to run program and am hoping to do a couple of 10k races this year.

If you can't convince them, confuse them!

by Carm on Jan 12, 2012 6:01 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I like the countdown but shouldn't it count down to Spring training?

As for a resolution I pledged to confront as many failings from my past as possible.

I joined a Judo club and signed up for a skating class. I gave up on Judo years ago and I never learned to skate -shameful I know. I want to be able to play hockey by the end of the year and be somewhat proficient at a martial art.

The Judo is tough and the class is in a hardcore MMA club downtown and getting mauled and thrown in front of professional fighters is a strange experience. Not sure if I can stick with this one.

by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 12, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The Fight for ps3 has me worn out… Other than that Nepal is always good for weight loss.

by JaysSaskatchewan on Jan 13, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I've managed to lose the 10lbs I gained over Christmas

I’m hoping for another 15 or so before my Slo-pitch season starts. I’m on this naturopath diel/cleanse regime, which is wonderful for rapid weight loss if a little boring after a while.

by siggian on Jan 12, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

5,000 calroie a day diet

Kind of went the other way during the Holidays due to binge drinking. Need to put the pounds back on.

If anyone has advice on how to put on healthy weight, please, do share.

by Aidin on Jan 12, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

Mc D's

Its better than weight gainers cause it taste darn good!

by Mike Andrew on Jan 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No Carb Left Behind

Anything that has carbs (try whole wheat pasta’s, similar caloric value). Eat a tonne of pasta, rice, all-you-can-eat sushi, and I’d say have at couple of avocado’s every morning for breakfast.

@VagabondBansal

by Vagabond13 on Jan 12, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Put on weight?

Hmm sounds rough

"And I'm like forget Yuuuuuu"

by jays182 on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

On a baseball related note

Sickels upgrading Gose from a B to a B+, but said there a multitude of possibilities for what Gose ends up being. If he turned in a healthier, less-crazy version of Coco Crisp would people be happy? I’m guessing the best case scenerio would be Carl Crawford during the good years.

by Aidin on Jan 12, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

sure, Crisp would be nice

can’t be too upset with 14 WAR/4 seasons peak. CC is probably his ceiling, but maybe closer to BJ Upton with more power. neither Crisp nor Crawford struck out nor walked a ton, but Gose looks like he’s going to be a high walk, high strikeout type hitter like Upton. if Gose can make enough contact in the Bigs, he could be really good

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Cameron

Really good defence, some power, contact issues. Mike Cameron was really good, really underrated, so this is obviously an optimistic comp, but I think there’s some similarities.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

great ceiling comp

he might be a teensy bit faster, but it’s a really good comparison

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone do harddrive repair

or know anyone that does it? Toronto / oshawa area prefferred.

Won’t power on after i built my new computer, figured i shocked it something and the logic board needs to be replaced, but i’m far to lazy to put the effort in to do it myelf.

Figured if anyone did it or w.e I’d give them the business!

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 12, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

I'd just take it to a local shop

probably the easiest thing to do. I was going to ask some simple questions but then I remembered you study IT :P

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

did all the trouble shooting =P, tried on two different machines and such

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 12, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had good luck going to small independent computer stores

they’re usually pretty helpful and don’t mind throwing in a few services if you buy something (new HDD)

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

ha ha

my school is in the middle of nowhereville
Our neighbour is a horse manure farm!

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 12, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I miss school

I was at Western in London, Ontario. Best days of my life

@VagabondBansal

by Vagabond13 on Jan 12, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I want school

BUT THESE STUPID ENTRY REQUIREMENTS ARE STUPID.

Takes an 85 to get into Brock sports management lol.

by Mike Andrew on Jan 12, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was only 80?

I remember Laurier required high 80’s while Brock was alot lower :s

"And I'm like forget Yuuuuuu"

by jays182 on Jan 13, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm in school now.

I think it should be the best days of my life?!? So there’s my resolution. To make these years good.

"And I'm like forget Yuuuuuu"

by jays182 on Jan 13, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I heard AA talking on the fan

And he said the payroll right now was in the high 80 millions. I’m not sure where he’s getting the extra 10 million though…
Also, if you didn’t listen, the Jays bid significantly less that 50 million on Darvish, he thinks Jays had the worst outfield defense in the majors last year (and he thinks this hurt the FB pitchers), Snider and Thames have about the same potential bat-wise but Snider is by far superior defensively and Damien Cox is still a huge dbag.

by Nadia on Jan 12, 2012 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

AA said all these things?

but yeah, worst outfield defense wouldn’t shock me. and Snider and Thames probably do have similar ceilings offensively but Snider could pretty easily be 2 wins better on defense from what we’ve seen in the Majors

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't argue with AA as CoPa would be a huge reason why.

Never saw a Jays season with so many balls dropping in between OFs.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 12, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

it's strange

UZR thought he was around average (which would make sense from his career norms) but DRS has him at -8, which definitely matches the eye test

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

He got awful, awful, awful jumps/reads on balls. And the speed is in decline, so it shows more.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What AA said about Darvish

was that anyone bidding in the high 40M, low 50M without going over Dice-K’s bid amount would be extremely foolish. You either bid over Dice-K, or significantly less (he never gave a number but I get the impression of 40M and less). He also sounded like he was very unimpressed with the potential value to be had with the players looking for 100M+, which included Darvish.

Another highlight I think was that he feels that if he / Beeston went to Rogers and said: If we sign player X for a massive contract, we will definitely win, that there is no question they would do it. The problem is that they would not then do it again, if it fails this time. That is a big driving force to them waiting until things shake out before going out there and making a big splash.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait until you see what big pitching contracts looks like

I’m finishing up my research into it, it’s a freaking bloodbath. I’m glad to hear him say that.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Horrifying, I assume

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 12, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

So when I was saying

that you either bid more than Dice K or you don’t expect to win I was right because he just said the same thing. I was roasted here. I said the Dice K number was the starting ground if you were looking to win and AA said the same thing.

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He implied the Darvish stuff, said the rest

Except for the Cox thing, that’s just me.

by Nadia on Jan 12, 2012 8:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

sick of having to see this "get the sb nation app"!

I got it, can’t sign in. Can’t landscape and the yahoo sign in page is completely cut off. Can’t zoom out or in or pan the screen. So kind of pointless to have it if I can’t sign in.

Ball.

by Casusby on Jan 12, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

On iPhone?

I was able to sign in through yahoo, so maybe just redownload the app or something?

by Nadia on Jan 12, 2012 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

mmm dollar store chocolate

its in the shape of a C! because my name starts with a C!

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

Did you say... chocolate?

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 12, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Geez, Reading the recap of the PTS interview along with other stuff this offseason… really has me leaning towards the “Rogers are cheapskates” side of the “Rogers are cheapskates” vs. “Rogers will spend when the time is right” argument. Sadface.

by Parallex on Jan 12, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

I took it that if the Jays do spend big, the results better be there or Rogers will turn off the taps pretty quickly (i.e. they will not support a club like the Cubs or Mets, or the Angels last year, who just spend for the sake of spending while still having mediocre/poor results). AA, rightfully so I think, just feels there are too many question marks to be confident in this team competing right now. With that said, I think he is confident that this team will be significantly better, and is ready to move towards a higher payroll if key players step up.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

Apparently, we’re on the same page

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

it’s funny that you brought up the Angels, because their ownership obviously doesn’t mind opening up the wallet again

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

True, it does go against the concept

But then again, Reagins is no longer the GM.

Another thing to note is that Rogers did invest in this team before, with the Wells and Halladay extensions, and the big free agents in 2007 and 2008. That didn’t go too well (in terms of playoffs), and when the team showed they still couldn’t compete, the taps were quickly turned off. However, I do think it does lend credence to the possibility of funds being available when AA/Beeston feels the team is ready to compete

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

The best predictor of future performance is to look at the past record.

When JP Riccardi was hired, his job was to tear down a team with a bloated payroll while building a core, bottom out the payroll, and then add pieces to the core to compete. Rogers increased the payroll when the time came.

AA was hired to his job was to tear down a team with a bloated payroll while building a core. He was trimmed the payroll, and said when the time comes to add pieces to the core to compete, Rogers has told him the payroll will be increased.

The one major difference perhaps is that ted rogers is now dead, but other than that, I don;t see the word shouldn’t be taken

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not even about spending “big”, spending average right now would be perfectly acceptable…

Rogers sent out a PR talking about how ratings on BJ games was up and attendance was up AKA more revenue. I don’t seem much of a corresponding reinvestment.

MLB revealed that the 10 lowest revenue (with crossover from 10 smallest markets) get entered into a lotto for extra draft picks… Jays not on the list. So we know that they’re not even in the bottom ten in terms of revenue

Then there was the quip about if getting a player would “guaranteed we’re going to win,” he could try to get Beeston on board and have Beeston pitch it to Nadir Mohamed. No one can guarentee anything. An absolute guarantee is a ridiculously (i.e. impossible) standard.

… it’s all made me rather pessimistic. I just keep getting the impression that by the time all the current “question marks” sort themselves out so much time will have passed that they’ll just be replaced by new “question marks” and new excuses not to go for it and by the time those sort themselves out a third wave of “question marks” will emerge and the cycle just get’s repeated ad infinitum.

I dunno, with the changes to the CBA basically doing nothing but increasing the relative importance of FA in team building it just seems like the plan is “build cheap, get lucky, maybe spend if more money comes in” I don’t like plans that seem to have “get lucky” as part of the plan.

by Parallex on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep in mind..

When JP was hired circa Nov 2001, it took him 4 years to tear down the team and rebuild before they started adding major pieces.

When Andrew Friedman took over in Tampa circa May 2005, it was 4 years before the Rays were in a position t compete (they were awful in 2007, and then made playoffs the next year, but even the front office was surprised by the magnitude of the improvement even they they expected big improvement).

AA just hit the two year mark. A little patience is in order I believe

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the 2012 Jays have a lot of similarities with the 2008 Rays

Not saying the same results, but I do think that the outlook and makeup of the teams was fairly similar.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I could agree with that

a big season from Lawrie could be comparable to the impetus the ridiculous rookie season Longo had for the Rays

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

We can hope

I’m not willing to go that far, my point in making the parallel was just that it takes time, it’s not going to come together overnight, and the time for adding big pieces in the free agent market is not now, so much as we might like a big move, we shouldn’t take the lack of one as a major unwillingness to spend money.

Incidently, and as much as I should probably not plan the idea….in two years we will be 4 years into the rebuilding…which is where the Jays were in 2005 and Rays in 2008. And in the 2013/14 offseason, a certain slugging first baseman who happens to have been born in the GTA is scheduled to be a FA.

Prime your maple boners.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Lawrie is the obvious one

But also, the comparison between Upton and Rasmus, 2 good young CFs, Lind and Pena, 2 1B with one good season and a bunch of mediocre ones, a cheap but solid BP, and even the starting rotation has its similarities (young pitchers who have had a little bit of success in the past, but had yet to really break out).

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, they made the Playoffs

and of course the Jays will this year too.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

And hopefully a progressive manager as well

Who will have the good sense to platoon Lind

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Farell showed progress

in his decision making as the season went on and hopefully he continues to progress

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he did too

and as long as Farrell learns from his mistakes (as seen by the Dotel usage) that’s all we, as fans, can fairly ask for

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

and I think a lot of us overlook the impact of a manager sometimes. We’re all basing our predicions on player progression and regression but we’re not factoring in improved managerial performance which may not be measureable but has to count for something

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I will address a few of your points

though I’m not saying you’re wrong to have your doubts / concerns, I just think I have a more optimistic outlook on the current state of the Jays.

- About revenue being up and a corresponding reinvestment, the payroll will be higher by about 5-10M this year, which is an increase of about 7-15% in payroll.

- I believe the lottery slots are based on market size, not revenues. The Jays are not a bottom 10 market, since their market is all of Canada.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

lottery slots

No, it was the bottom ten teams in terms of revenue and bottom ten teams in terms of market size (but no double dipping) 14 teams ended up on the list.

by Parallex on Jan 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And just to give Toronto props (even though I don’t live there) even if it wasn’t all of Canada the Jays still wouldn’t be small market. IIRC Metro Toronto is the 7th largest market in North America.

by Parallex on Jan 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was 4th

NY
LA
CHI
TOR

what am I missing?

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that's true

I thought I read somewhere not to long ago that in terms of land size it was

Mexico City
LA
NY
Toronto

I may be wrong

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by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

according to wiki

by land area, the four biggest markets in NA are actually all in Alaska, which is weird.

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I found another one that has Tampa ranked higher in land area. I guess the prof who told me that was out to lunch

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by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

well Tampa isn't really a city

it’s a poorly defined urban area, IIRC

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it was 4th… anyway you look at it Toronto ain’t a small market.

by Parallex on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If the markets are based on metropolitan areas, then this would def. be true

but if some of the teams in the states have an entire state as their market, then their market may be larger then all of Canada (not saying this is the case, as I have no idea (or interest really) in how MLB decides their markets).

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if theyre going by metro area

Chicago, LA, and New York each have two teams, leads me to wonder if they factor that in and split the population 50/50.

by GoseBusters on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

according to wiki

Toronto is the 7th largest “urban agglomeration” in North America, at 5,312,000 in 2005.

Top 10: Mexico City, NY, LA, Chicago, Miami, Philadelphia, Toronto, Dallas-Fort Worth, Boston, Houston

by SuckaMD on Jan 12, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

However...

If you look at population density, Toronto proper wouldn’t be in the top 25 of US cities… According to wiki, Cleveland is 25th with just shy of 11,000 people/square mile (yes, mile). Toronto proper is just over 10,000. If you include the GTA, that number drops to roughly 2,500 people/ sq mile.

Tells a bit of a different story…

by allcanadian34 on Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad

The Jays were 6th lowest in attendance and even lower in terms of attendance percentage. I’m stealing this quote from someone, but Toronto isn’t “acting like a big market”

by Aidin on Jan 12, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I go to a few games a year

and I always say I want to go to more but I don’t. Time to walk the walk a little more.

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by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

I go to 4 or 5, and always want to go to more. This year, I already have tickets for 10, and will be looking for more whenever I can make it. Let’s give Rodgers something to spend. Haha.

by Lutherie on Jan 12, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They already charge me a pantload

for cable and internet. I feel like I’ve given them enough. But my love for the Jays outweighs my hatred for Robbers Communication

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by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all gone now but the Jays season pass is a great idea

$95 for 80 home games on a fully transferable pass is a eat deal, even if you only make it out to 15 games or so

Follow me @Minor_Leaguer

by Minor Leaguer on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

what is this you speak of

I haven’t heard of this. What’s an eat deal? Sounds delicious

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by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 12, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got one too, the 32g version

which one did you get? I love it but I can’t wait to gain access to android apps

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by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

16GB

Got it for $150 through a friend in RIM. Yea, I hope SBNation will make their Android app Playbook compatible.

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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 13, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought the Jays had decent pricing

But I live all the way in Caledon so its hard for me to make it to games. Needless to say I envy those of you who actually live in Toronto. If I was living within 10 or 15 minutes of Rogers Center I’d go at at least 10 times a season. Although I guess that’s easy to just say

by Aidin on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s all gone now but the Jays season pass is a great idea

Is it really gone?!?!

I was counting on it for this year. I had it for both 2009 and 2010 (went to at least 12 games on each…)

I hope they still have something of that ilk this year – I’m on of those “living within 10 or 15 minutes of Rogers Center”, and I’d be happy for the opportunity to go to as many games as possible.

"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)

by HESS2479 on Jan 13, 2012 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Call and ask, but I think all the decent seats are gone…

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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 13, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the deal with the Season Pass

was that you didn’t have assigned seats, you could just show up the day of any game and get a 500-level ticket based on availability at the time you showed up.

by SuckaMD on Jan 13, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what I thought too

still a really good deal, if you don’t mind missing the really popular games (Alomar, Doc, opener)

by benk on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That was true up to this year

Starting in 2012, holders will be assigned a particular seat for the entire season. No tickets will be involved—each pass holder will get a card that is scanned at the gate. Pros are that we no longer have to get there super early for the popular games, that we get to skip lines, and we get a personal seat in the RC. Cons are that we can’t sit with friends unless we move and that we are stuck in that one angle for the entire season.

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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 13, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been arguing exactly that all offseason.

The Jays could be a very good team but there are way too many question marks on this team. In a year or 2 there won’t be.

I'm just as sharp as AA!

No, not really.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 12, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I got the opposite feeling…he basically said that as the team is more successful, and revenues rise, the payroll will be able to rise…big market opportunity…same boilerplate (by this I mean straightforward, commonsense approach) stuff we usually hear.

More encouraging than that payroll parameters crap, though I imagine that was mostly aimed at agents and AA was just using the press to blow it up since he knew they’d jump on it

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

To make a catch phrase out of it all: Don’t buy a big free agent to buy wins in September. Buy wins in October.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If you build a playoff contending team then buy as opposed to buying a player to get into playoff contetion you are far better off.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

oh okay

I misinterpreted your first comment. I agree

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 12, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

AA Sportsnet

I have a question for you guys. I just watched the video on AA talking with Cox and McCown, on the second part AA was talking about Travis D’arnaud and that they would not have to worry about what to do with JPA and Travis until 2013 and they still have the HFS as back up but I am not sure what HFS is?

http://www.sportsnet.ca/video/latest/AA-in-PTS-studio—Part-2

About 1:50

Thanks

*Jays fan since 1977*

by ZzMANzZ on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

He said in 2013 they’d still have “DH at-bats” for if JPA and D’Arnaud were both on the roster. It sounds like HFS though

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

UNLESS

Encarnacion hits 40HRs+ 100+ RBIs, but if that happens, he’d sell high on him.

by BrownMagician on Jan 13, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

oh that makes more sense, I tried googling HFS and it did not make any sense, thanks for clarifying.

*Jays fan since 1977*

by ZzMANzZ on Jan 12, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

BTW

By the way, this is my fav Blue Jays Blog, I check it out 3 – 4 times a day for updates on the Jays and new blogs, keep up the great work!

*Jays fan since 1977*

by ZzMANzZ on Jan 12, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

LOL like this

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I've done it too

nothing you can do but laugh :)

by benk on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Should have seen yesterday in PPP I got 37+ recs for:

I recommend this comment

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

On anther note. I love hockey today.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

WINGS LEAFS WINTER CLASSIC AND epic collapse of Montreal!!!!!!

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

http://watch.tsn.ca/clip600134#clip600134

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

I prefer Montreal to Boston for sure. Though I mostly support Canadian teams over US teams on principle

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't mean game.

They pulled Cammaleri halfway through it and traded him to Calgary because of comments he said earlier.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, lol

I saw earlier that Montreal was playing Boston for I assumed…and you know what they say about that.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the winter classic is not the best at home, being there will be awesome. That said 24/7 with Burke, Wilson, Armstrong, and Kessel’s akwardness is going to be amazing.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’M SO EXCITED!!

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t for the life of me understand what the hell Montreal and Calgary are doing. Flames just re-building that mediocre team instead of delaying the process even further. Montreal, traded for Kaberle earlier and now they’re trading Camma for a worse player.

Oh well, I enjoy watching Montreal collapse.

by Sniderlover on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal had to trade him

He was having a shit season and after his comments yesterday they could justify a trade to the fanbase

by Aidin on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The Habs needed someone to speak French

They saw “Rene Borque” and were like “ZOMG FRENCH NAME!!11”

Too bad Borque doesn’t speak a word of french.

by brigstew on Jan 13, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Since this is an open thread

I’m going to vent for a second. I’m desperately trying to drive my research into pitching contracts, which I’ve been working on for a week. All the data is compiled, all the tables are done, except one, because STUPID Excel is returning errors for my formulas in two rows, even though it’s the same formula as everywhere else, and everything else is fine. I hate Excel sometimes.

/rant.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

And after my little hissy fit, of course I would find it…and of course it’s a stupid mistake I made.

by MjwW on Jan 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ranting, like complaining is healthy.

As a Toronto sports fan I proudly follow the lessons of lachrymology.
"He drives that new car around town and feels really good about it." - Ron Wilson
"Vancouver, BC: A massive inferiority complex with a city." - TheOtherAndrew
"HOPE is more than a postponed disappointment" - Epica

by Redonred on Jan 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Boy did Chad Jenkins lose a ton of weight

He’s the one in the middle.

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- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

That's crazy

He looks like a completetly different person, especially in the face. In the article they list him as 6’4" 235 and Hutchison as 6’2" 165, and there’s no way they’re 70 pounds apart.

On a side note, orgaizationally, between him and Cecil, this is good news. And I like that the Jays are doing this to ease the transition, I just wonder why McGuire wasn’t along and whether there’s an inference we can draw from that around major league readiness

by MjwW on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he had other plans, and couldn’t show up? There were other Jays prospects that didn’t show, like d’Arnaud.

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by Frag on Jan 13, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess

Add you’re right, I forgot that D’Arnaud isn’t there either, so no adverse inference is in order, but I still find it curious…one would think that the Jays would have let them know of the dates well ahead of time, and this seems like something you wouldn’t want to easily pass up.

by MjwW on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably doesn't need to be there two years in a row

Hech was supposed to be there too but couldn’t make it due to visa issues according to the article.

Hic sunt fortuna dracones
There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison

by JaysfanDL on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah Okay

That makes sense…so then I think it is a valid question: whither Deck?

by MjwW on Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Working out

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by Frag on Jan 13, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Again though

This is a pretty big opportunity, and I’m sure they would have given plenty of notice…if all these other guys can fit this in (and I’m sure the Jays consult with the players on their readiness plans), why not McGuire?

I’m looking for a logical innocent explanation, but I can’t help wondering if there’s a larger inference given that he’s supposed to be one of the closest to the show.

by MjwW on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

it isn't a thing where the players decide.

the team invites particular players.

I blog, therefore I am.

by Tom Dakers on Jan 17, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

AA also says Hutch made a quantum leap and added some velo

which, judging from his numbers, could be true. maybe he started filling out, and free scouting reports haven’t noticed yet/seen him enough

by benk on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

for all the concerns about Mcdade's weight

by that picture it looks like it is all in his legs..I don’t think you can call that a calf..it’s a bull.

by ABsteve on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Those aren't his calves

He just stole Thames’ biceps

by brigstew on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Montero for Pineda!!

Cashman took a page from AA.

Pinstripe Alley is not happy. Parts have been carpetbombed with F-bombs.

In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.

by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 13, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

I have no idea who i want in our division

Both looks like beast

Toronto Sports Fan= Waiting, waiting, waiting.............then more waiting

by noname3 on Jan 13, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Resolution

Smoke more cigars, follow more baseball, build a monster business

by 44stampede on Jan 13, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Word on the street has

Fielder and the Rangers talking 6 years with an opt out after 3 at 22-24 million per…

Thoughts?

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Resolution

I want to get out to see a Jays series this year. I am in Calgary, so maybe in Seattle in July…

by Cybertooth Tiger on Jan 15, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

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