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Brandon Morrow and Jays only $300,000 Apart in Arbitration

Brandon Morrow is asking for $4.2 million from the arbitrator, the Jays number is $3.9 million. I'm very surprised they couldn't come to an agreement when they are that closer. You'd think meeting in the middle would be worth it for both sides, save the time and bother of putting together an arbitration case.

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yeah, that's awfully close

makes me think (completely unsubstantiated) that they started working on another deal

by benk on Jan 17, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

either that or they were further apart

and one or both thought their number was out to lunch and picked a different number to submit

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by Tom Dakers on Jan 17, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

both great hypotheses!!

by ayjackson on Jan 17, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this was it

Club offers during negotiations are generally lowballed.

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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Especially since AA said they were apart and needed a third party to help settle price. One side must have held out for a different number, and then submitted differently

by MjwW on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

GREEDY MORROW

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 17, 2012 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I saw that Brandon McCarthy signed today for $4.2m and thought that would be a fair comp for Morrow. Lo and behold, so did Morrow’s agent.

by ayjackson on Jan 17, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Janssen

Any word on the numbers on both sides for Casey Janssen.

With Morrow, I hope they come to a 2-3 year deal 3.9 Year 1, 5.8 Year 2; 6.6 Year 3.

That is reasonable, no?

by Rhinos on Jan 17, 2012 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

i would think Janssen’s numbers would look similar to Villanueva’s.

by ayjackson on Jan 17, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlos got 2.2775

Janssen would be something like 2.75 I guess

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 17, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds about right

I think it is typical to get about 80% of market value in the final year of arbitration, and 3.5M sounds about right.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 17, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m guessing the Jays saw it as a good opportunity to try to get a multi-year deal done. He seems like he might be the next guy they want to lock up for a while.

by interestingmonkey on Jan 17, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Peanuts

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by Beer Leaguer on Jan 17, 2012 7:09 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

was referring more to this but okay

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

As others have mentioned, I think this means Morrow and the Jays are talking about a multi year deal. This would be a good time to get him for 3 or maybe 4 years considering his value is significantly low right now. In a few seasons it MIGHT be a steal for the Jays but who knows? Either way I’m a Morrow believer and looking forward to seeing K the league.

I wish the 1994 strike would have never happened :(

by ExposTurnedBlue77 on Jan 17, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, seriously?

@Wilnerness590: Blue Jays offer Casey Janssen $1.8 million, Janssen asks $2.2.

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 17, 2012 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

FWIW

MLBTR has him pegged for $1.6M, so both ranges are already above that. A lot fo this determine is very arcane, because it depends how big a raise is being asked for, and then specific stats. Remember, Janssen basically has no saves, which hurts the arb case

by MjwW on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oh right

teh saves

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 18, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda

Basically paid him at the equivalent of a 3 year/$30M free agent deal, which is good. But he’s incredibly inconsistent from year to year. Only needs to product about 6 WAR over the contract to justify it, but on the other hand, the Giants guaranteed him the money without buying out free agent years.

It’s not bad, but I wouldn’t say they did real well.

by MjwW on Jan 17, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If he hits like he has been hitting

he’ll earn way more than that in arbitration

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 17, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Lincecum asking for $21.5 M

WOW!

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by Frag on Jan 17, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think even if the Giants win

it’s the biggest arbitration award ever.

Amazingly, Lincecum is an arb 2 (even though it’s his 3rd eligible year, since he would have been a super two). So, based on the 40-60-80 estimates, Lincecum is valuing himself at $35M on the free agent market. No way he wins that, right?

by SuckaMD on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably a little agressive

I imagine they settle, something like 2/45. While he wouldn’t get $35 on the open market, he’d never settle for 1 or 2 years on the open market. If he hits the free agent market, healthy, that’s going to be a whopper of a contract

by MjwW on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

These seem to be some crazy small differences

Not really worth going to a hearing over…either split the damn difference or figure out mtually acceptable way out – extension, 1+1 for Janssen, whatever.

by MjwW on Jan 17, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Jan 17, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn’t hash out multi-year deals in time so they were forced to put in one-year salaries which just happened to be pretty close?

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by Cam Oegema on Jan 17, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

I recommend not looking too much into it

The values submitted have nothing to do with the negotiations – the arbitrator will pick one of the two values, so even if the Jays or Morrow wanted to pay less / make more, they had to submit a number that was close to what they could expect the arbitrator to pick.

by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 17, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

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