Minor League Ball Ranks the Blue Jays System as Best
by Tom Dakers on Jan 23, 2012 6:36 PM EST
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PrintOver at Minor League Ball, John Sickels has ranked the 30 MLB teams minor league systems and he puts our Jays number #1. Here is what he says about us:
1) Toronto Blue Jays: Eight B+ prospects with ridiculous depth behind them.
Yay us!
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really depends on what you think of Darvish's prospect status
hard to see the Rangers’ farm not being #1 with him included as a prospect
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
Definitely #1 farm system if you include Darvish
And I would
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BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH!
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 23, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was funny that he described the Brewers’ hitting as “a little thin”…
Here's my attempt at a witty sig. Didn't really go so well, methinks.
Wise men wonder, while strong men die.
It's very good considering where the Jays were in the dark days of 2009.
Can’t wait for the 140th FanPost this off season as to why the Jays should trade most if not all of those hard earned/developed prospects for some vague idea of contention in the AL Beast.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 23, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions
Just don’t get too comfortable with it.
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was just going to say
if a prospect produces more than 15 wins for you, he did damn well
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
Actually from '06 to '08 it was Ichiro, according to fWAR
but Rios wasn’t far behind. Markakis was close too.
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There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison
yeah, those three were right at the top
Rios did it in the fewest PAs though. in any case, he’s definitely among the best
I didn't realize how close he was to being number 1
His defence made up a lot of that. Ichiro was the best all-around RF. Markakis was a better hitter. It looks like Ordonez was the best hitter but his D dragged him down.
You’re right though about the PAs. Maybe if he had been the starter at the beginning of ‘06, he’d have made it even closer.
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There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison
True.
Hey, Alex Rios worked out well for the Jays… when they released him.
Although I have to admit, he did well when he played here, but that 5K game and the fallout from that game still linger.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 23, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
maybe I'm just really biased and don't see it
but any time a draft pick/prospect can legitimately be called the best player at his position over 3 seasons – as Rios was – the draft pick/prospect worked out. period, full stop.
Holy carp
Q: Jim S. from Milwaukee asks:
Would you characterize Guillermo Quiroz as a good defensive catcher with an acceptable bat or does he offer a better offense-defense balance with the possibility that he could be a better than average offensive catcher? Also, would you say he is the third best catching prospect behind Mauer and Mathis?
A:
John Manuel: I’ll let Josh rank the catchers, but it’s probably between Navarro and Quiroz, and my familiarity with Quiroz would have me in his corner. I think he’s an offense-defense balance guy; he’s got a chance to hit 20-30 home runs in the major leagues, his raw power rivals that of Josh Phelps. His defense is better than his offense, but calling him a guy with an ‘acceptable’ bat doesn’t do him justice, I don’t think.
Is it me, or does that sound eerily similar to the current d’Arnaud-JPA debate?
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- Niels Bohr
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Quiroz had better raw power numbers than d’Arnaud as a 21 year old in AA (1.84 bases per hit). Phelps transition to the MLB, from a first look, looks similar to JPA (Though with more strikeouts and walks than JPA).
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- Niels Bohr
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Also
Also, would you say he is the third best catching prospect behind Mauer and Mathis?
LOL
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by Frag on Jan 23, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ugh.
Q: David Stevens from Medicine Hat asks:
Is Russ Adams a better prospect than Brent Abernathy was? Abernathy had better number at a younger age but never turned into a regular second baseman in the majors
A:
John Manuel: Yes, Adams is more athletic than Abernathy, a better base stealer and draws more walks. I saw Abernathy at his best, in the 2000 Olympics, and he made it to the big leagues, so I don’t think ill of him as it seems many Jays fans do. Adams has more offensive upside, though.
Ouch.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 23, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
No but the Jays get 3 More Years of Brandon, a year of Omar and (please no) Cordero.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/cordero-expects-to-sign-soon-angels-in-the-hunt.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/blue-jays-closing-in-on-deal-with-omar-vizquel.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/blue-jays-close-to-extension-with-brandon-morrow.html
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 23, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
MOAR CLUB OPTIONS
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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...Interesting
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr
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why!?!?
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 23, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
do we lose bones on the bench now?
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 23, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2012/1/23/2728698/mlb-trade-rumors-jays-close-to-deal-with-omar-vizquel
http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2012/1/23/2728698/mlb-trade-rumors-jays-close-to-deal-with-omar-vizquel
http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2012/1/23/2728698/mlb-trade-rumors-jays-close-to-deal-with-omar-vizquel
+1 is only good if you actually rec the post
by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 23, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
No worries
It just occurred to me with this thread, and I have a graphic all set to go for the next comparison that I made a while back
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