Tigers Sign Prince Fielder
Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) thwips that Prince has signed with the Detroit Tigers for 9 years at $214 million.
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by jaysfanfromeurope on Jan 24, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions
nine? how about Five?
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that’s a ton……….i asked in the other thread but how much WAR/year would he have to accumulate to live up to that deal?
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According to MjwW:
My contract calculator
Says he needs to be about 5.7 WAR next year to be worth it, declining from there. $5M/WAR, -0.5 WAR/year, 5% inflation. Total of 29.3 WAR
Just to put it in this thread :-)
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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah screwed that up
It’s actually 36 WAR over 6 years, true talent level of about 6 WAR next year. That’s too much
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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
That's a pretty solid freaking lineup
Even with VMart going down.
by craig in calgary on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
well
they still have a gaping hole at 2B if i’m not mistaken, Peralta will probably come back to earth, 3B is probably a black hole and the outfield doesn’t have much promise either.
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Which is why
They’ll trade for Kelly Johnson and relievers at the deadline, ad we’ll get Jacob Turner.
Book it (not really, but here’s to hoping)
which is why I was so excited when rumors of us getting uehara started
more relievers to use as trade chips!
...with a rotation of Verlander-Fister-Scherzer-someone-someone
That’s alot of wins.
by craig in calgary on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
prince will be the first baseman, for anyone asking. cabrera will have to change role. #tigers
This is just getting more weird every minute.
Will they ask Cabrera to go back to 3B?
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I thought he was a butcher at 1B?
what’s he like at 3rd?
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
below average according to UZR
a butcher according to TZ. Hasn’t played 3B fulltime since 2007.
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This will be fascinating. Neither Cabrera nor Fielder will want to DH all the time. Can Miggy play 3B or LF? #Tigers
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Well, Miggy has played 3B and LF in the past
Not well, mind you.
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Whether it’s Fielder or Cabrera, the Tigers will pay their DH at least $21M a year through 2015. That’s staggering, insane, etc. ad nauseam.
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 24, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
And AA at his...
For not doing something like this to the Jays…
If Prince ever has a down year on this contract, look out below…
“What? We’re paying over 20M for 26 HR and 90 RBI?”
But I guess that only matters if they don’t win a WS title.
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So there goes the ridiculous rumour that Prince won't go to any team his dad has played for...
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What about Jose for Cabrera straight up?
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Short term no, long term, yes.
3 years younger. I would consider it, but there is a reason why I said almost ;)
Interestingly enough it would actually long term be better for both teams.
Tigers would have Prince as their 1B and could keep Jose in the OF.
Would afford us more space in the OF and we would have the 1B we desperately need.
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Titles please.
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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 24, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Or
We could just move Bautista to 1B when we have better defensive outfielders pushing up from the farm
Would anyone have had a problem with Jays signing him to a 9 year $215M contract?
by craig in calgary on Jan 24, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions
Absolutely.
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by Jevant on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
lol yes and its easy to see why jays werent serious
by Sniderlover on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I've never seen it before
Row of 6 comments with 2 recs. I had to make ’em all green!
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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
and wrecking
haha because it sounds like rec
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
by Pikachu on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
because rec sounds like wreck and wreck sounds like rec and rec sounds like wreck and yeah
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
by Pikachu on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"rec" sounds nothing like "wreck and yeah"
by benk on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yo dawg I heard you like recs so I rec'd your wreck so you can wreck your rec.
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by neilrqm on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I;ve been doing it a lot
to get others to do it more, i feel like once people see one rec there, they are more likely to add a rec.
we need more green on this site =D
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 25, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Or should we raise the threshold to go green to 5 recs?
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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unrec
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 25, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't like the length of the contract
The AAV isn’t bad.
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That would mean
He’d have to put up 22 WAR over those 5 years, or a true talent fo around 5.4 WAR next year. It’s much better, still a bit of a stretch though
Free agent contracts are usually overpays
I knew he was never going to get just 5 years though. Boras always finds a sucker.
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Right
It wouldn’t be a bad overpay, I’m just saying, it’s not a no-brainer. The circumstances, in terms of win curve, etc still have to make sense to justify it
Do you think all GMs think that way?
I’m not sure myself that they do. Particularly, Dave Dombrowski.
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When it's a 100M commitment
It has to be the right situation. I can’t imagine a GM doesn’t think about those things. Well, maybe Tony Reagins.
To me a no-brainer literally means it makes sense almost no matter what. I guss A-Rod for $100M back in 2000 would have been that, but that wasn’t realistic either
I think Ilitch really wants a WS ring
He has okayed big contracts before. The Tigers are well known for signing Boras clients. I wouldn’t be surprised if he pushed for it too.
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Sure, no doubt
But this has gone beyond the original point I made. Which was that this AAV, on a 5 year, would be not be a no-brainer. It’s an objective overpay, so it has to make sense in terms of the win curve etc.
As it turns out, the Tigers are in the right spot on the win curve. THey have a veteran team, already a mid to high-80s win type team
Yeah, I got that
I was just saying that I doubt all GMs think the way you do and break it down by AAV and determine if it’s an objective overpay. I bet a lot of the young GMs do but Dombrowski is a bit old-school. He also has a pushy owner with a lot of money that doesn’t mind shopping at the House of Boras.
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Well
The linear $/WAR is just a beginning. If you are in a position where the added wins can have a big payoff (ie, a prime spot on the WAR curve), it’s not an overpay.
If GMs don’t think like this, well, they won’t be around for very long. It’s why guys like Hendry and Reagins got canned. Dombrowski is a prety smart GM, he’s built multiple winners. I think he pays attention to this stuff
Mind-blowingly-unbelievable
Mike Illitch must be made of money.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 24, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Since the news broke we have triple the comments as the Tigers SB site
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
If I was a Tigers fan my thought process after finding out would be...
“Yaaaa Prince Fielder, he hit ball far. Oh wait, how is this gonna work.”
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by jays182 on Jan 24, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GREEN THIS
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If Detroit did this because Martinez got hurt
It’s collossially stupid. If Martinez getting hurt tipped the balance, it’s a different story, but if that’s what got them in, wow. That’s not good management
Maybe Boras sent some goons over to V-Marts house...
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
If they plan on moving Cabrera to LF, then this might have been in the cards for awhile.
Martinez to DH, with a spot start at C. Prince at 1B.
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That line-up beats the Rangers
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
If it beats the Rangers, it destroys the rest of the AL Central
If I’m the Tigers, I hang this sign at Comerica Park:
“Abandon all hope, ye AL Central teams that enter here”
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by FanInJapan on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Projection
Using a 5/4/3 weighting of his last 3 years (and averaging fWAR and rWAR) to estimate true talent, I get a 4.8 WAR true talent estimate for 2012. Plugging that into my (fixed) calculator, I get $145M in value. Which means the Tigers will pay 50% than the value they receive, in a very simple projection
Let's be optimistic on Fielder here
Let’s say he gets 5 WAR next season. Martinez was a 2.9 WAR player. There’s a 2.1 WAR gap. That’s right, the Tigers just paid 20+ million a season to get all of 2 WAR. Dombrowski is a genius.
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Not quite that simple
Martinez is aging, so you can’t project him there into the future. And also, Prince displaces VMart, who displaces someone else worse. So there’s a chaining effect you’re omitting
For this season it is
And seeing Fielder’s body type, he could regress at the same level as V-Mart over the next couple seasons. V-Mart can’t replace anybody at this point because he really play anything other than DH and Catcher. Considering Avila is already a better catcher, it would set them back.
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by dudedudedude on Jan 24, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
OK
But this season Martinez is out, so that is irrelevant. And Martinez only had two more seasons left. I don’t like the contract, but I feel the way you’re looking at it and evaluating it is is very flawed
Fielder is directly replacing Martinez this season
Whether it’s at first or DH. Instead of getting someone on a 1 year deal to replace those 3 WAR which could have easily been done with Pena, he gets a 9 year deal to totally fuck up everything Detroit is doing. The marginal gain from this is so tiny, and that’s not even looking at the value of these players.
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by dudedudedude on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I completely disagree
Pena does not project as a 3WAR DH, he’d be lucky to be 2 WAR DH. You have to have a really good bat to put up 3 WAR as DH. I don;t like the contract, but your analysis is simplistic.
Why on earth would you not slot Pena at first base?
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by dudedudedude on Jan 24, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
What?
They already had Cabrera and VMart. VMart is out. You said sign Pena. Whether Pena plays first and Cabrera DH, or vice versa, it’s a zero sum game from the positional adjustment POV.
Pena plays average defense
So he can benefit from playing first instead of DH where as Miggy is a poor first basemen who would gain value from playing DH. Pena can easily put up 2 WAR playing first base, with the potential for more. Let’s assume he gets 2 WAR which is a 0.9 WAR drop from last season’s Vmart production. So the Tigers paid 20+ million for essentially 2.5 WAR. That’s a huge overpay.
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by dudedudedude on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
OK
So you gain maybe 5 runs (0.5 WAR) putting Pena’s average defense at 1B rather than Cabrera. I disagree that Pena puts up 2 WAR easy – he’s averaged less than that the last two years, he’s getting older, and his platoon splits are increasing.
But let’s agree it’s a 2.5 WAR upgrade this year. Given there the Tigers are, it could be worth it, given their spot on the win curve. Again, I don’t like the contract long term, and if they just did it because VMart went down, it’s a terrible decision making process, but I don’t find the way you are approaching the analysis, focussing on just the next couple years when it’s a 9 year deal, as particuarly useful
I don't deal with present values of contracts
That’s over my head. I can do roster construction and basic value of players, and this is extremely poor roster construction.
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by dudedudedude on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
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You’ve been warnedwarnedwarned.
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Heyman now doing schilling for Boras
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lets remember this next year. the #mystery team always wins. think there were 2 mystery teams in this case.
Guess that’s the price for getting the scoop from Boras
Miggy + Price + VMart
When the 3 play together in 2013 they will all combine to form the worst defense in MLB. I truly don’t get why the Tigers did this. It smells of panic. But I’m hoping the MjwW is right and this just gave us an in on Jacob Turner down the line. Congrats Tigers fans, you’ll love when you team can put up 7 spots on the scoreboard. You’ll hate when your defense keeps teams in it with 5 spots.
It will be like the MLB All-Chubby team too.
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by jays182 on Jan 24, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So let's review the offseason
Pujols: NL to AL
Fielder: NL to AL
Darvish: To the AL
CJ Wilson: Stays in the AL
Jose Reyes: Stays in NL.
Seems like the AL just got a whole lot uglier.
Don't forget Darvish to the AL as well
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Yeah
Pricne doesn’t change anything, because the tigers were likely to come out of the AL Central anyway, and the second wild card is unlikely to come from there.
The problem is, there are 5 teams ahead of us in my view, we need to leap over 2 for the second wild card (not necessarily this year, but in the future): TB, Yankees, Boston, Ranger, LA. And Both LA and Texas got a lot better
Wilson for Darvish
doesn’t seem that much of a gain. I can’t remember any other big moves they have done (not that they really need to though since they were already very good).
by Playoffs!!!!1 on Jan 24, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
You're right
They’re probably similar to last year. But they were an excellent team, so just maintaining that keeps them ahead. Plus, they’ve got a loaded farm system, better tha any of those other teams, right on par with ours
What Do You Think...
it would take to get us Jacob Turner? He seems to be a risk as his command isn’t all too great yet. But he’s still developing.
I also just traded Alex Gordon for Alverez + Gose. Keep in mind I took over this team of nobodies with zero minor league talent that has finished and will finish last. I got Gordon as part of the package for the Puljos pick.
Any of you interested in doing a fantasy baseball league? We could use Yahoo for free. Make it a keeper league.
I'm assuming he wouldn't be made available until the deadline
And then only if the Tigers needed a big upgrade. My current fantasy, as stated above, is a Rasmus type deal – KJ + relievers, maybe a prospect for Turner. But it’s highly speculative.
The Tigers farm system is basically Turner + Castellanos
I See
Bautista moving to DH in 2013/2014. Where would we play VMart in 2013?
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by jays182 on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Castellanos
Plays 3rd. Lets get him and convert him to the other corner.
is his bat good enough to be a good 1B?
you have to be a way better hitter to play first than you do to play third
Boras has comprimising photos of Ilitch and Dombrowski
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by JaysfanDL on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
dammit
Source: Cordero to #BlueJays, pending physical. One year, $4.5M. Will set up for Santos. #MLB
by leaflover4ever on Jan 24, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Although Cordero did see his K rate slid, his GB rate jumped and his walk rate plummeted.
He’s pretty much at the end of his usefulness, but a strong start to the year should get us something in a trade. It’s not like we need the room in the BP. This just means more guys can start.
I kinda like how AA is using the BP as a way to get some veteran guys around the team (Oliver, Frasor, now Cordero).
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Rogers is cheap, hadn't you heard?
If Cordero doesn’t earn that 4.5 million, heads will roll.
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by leaflover4ever on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Everytime...
…another one of these good players gets signed somewhere else I get depressed and usually kick my cat. Another opportunity lost for us. I’m not saying the deal is great, but when are free agent signings every a good deal for the club and it still happens? Maybe taking on a contract that’s going to suck in 5-6 years is just the cost of winning in our division. No doubt it will be fun competing hard to finish third in the AL East again while the Tigers roll over the doormat AL Central. But hey, at least we signed 98 year old Omar Vizquel…
tigers won their division last year...
This wouldn’t be a good move for us. Plus the contract is really bad
by STZ513 on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Neither is Pujols...
Free agent contracts for good players are mostly terrible by value for a team, yet the continue. Everyone wanted Fielder when he was available, it’s always the price that scares people off. I can’t imagine we’ll ever come to the day when we sign a free agent who bangs 40 HR and think to ourselves…wow did the Jays ever steal him with that contract.
by crawford_todd on Jan 24, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
well...
no it doesn’t. That’s why it says free agents.
by crawford_todd on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
while i agree that teams often need to overpay to sign top FAs
This contract for this player is not worth it imo. I’m fine with overpaying given the right circumstances, just not this time
problem is we're not one piece away
I’ve argued your position many times. but mortgaging the future only works when the team is really, really close to contention. the Jays are getting there, but signing Prince at what the Tigers paid would NOT be a good idea right now
If committing $214M is an "opportunity"
Then count me out of those type opportunities. At least at this point.
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Dont Forget
The player actually has to WANT to come to your team or you’re spending even more to lure him. And, if it’s an elite player who’s going to get “paid” regardless of where he goes, and you are able to lure him with extra cash, maybe you don’t want him anyway.
Build it (properly), make a contender, and they will come…Fans and free agents…..
So in 4 years when Fielder turns into the new Vernon Wells on the Jays.
How’s that contract gonna look?
Can we start the Gose watch yet?
It's always about the money
I get it too. The contract is too much, he won’t be worth it in 5-6 years. But isn’t that the same story we’ve been singing forever? Tiger’s don’t care about the money, they want to win. A crucial player goes down, boom, they fix it. It just feels like sometimes we prefer to be fiscally prudent, rather than an actual winning ball team.
Oh well. All butcher team, but all the Tigers need to do
Is to score so many runs that all the runs their horrible D allows won’t count.
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by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM EST reply actions
This also increases Cabrera's fantasy value tremendously
if he indeed is moving to 3B
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
you think they would have talked about it before making the deal
Fielder is a great addition, but do you really want to make Miggy mad? what if neither backs down? demands a trade?
could get messy
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Jan 24, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I've heard some say that the Tigers asked Cabrera to practice 3B defense this offseason
just in case something happens
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
I guess that makes the most sense
He hasn’t played fulltime at 3B since 2007 though. I can’t wait to watch a Tigers game just for the defensive antics. They still have Delmon Young in LF right? This could get ugly.
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Although in the long term this was a bad decision for the Detroit Tigers organization...
For the next 3-5 years Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder are going to be one of the top Power duos in all of MLB.
But still, long term I just don’t see Prince performing that well on the back-end of this deal. It won’t be pretty when that happens… I always thought a team was going to be able to pull off a 5 or 6 year deal. Mr. Boras is drinking a very fine wine tonight, guaranteed.
also...
AA looks like a Genius with that Bautista contract right now doesn’t he?
Hey Benk remember our over/under 7 years?
I went over you went under?
AA looks godly now, that has to be one of the worst contracts of the decade.
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I’m actually just as shocked at the term as u probably are.
I’m so happy it wasn’t the Jays. I would much rather have watched somebody in the division sign him and be messed.
I’m willing to bet his first down year is this year, he finishes under 3 WAR.
Sound logic?
Lose a player to injury for one year, sign a player who plays the same position for 9 years.
I know the owner is 82 and probably doesn’t care that this contract will be an albatross within 5-6 years, he wants to win now. Still, you have to wonder about the intelligence of people who would spend 200 mil+ in reaction to an injury to one player. They were probably still the favourite in the AL central anyway!
Interesting write up
On this signing at the Outside Corner…..figure he winds up being worth 1.5 wins…..when everything including Cabrera’s and Feilders defense is taken into account.
by Keith72 on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
as FanGraphs pointed out
if the Tigers really wanted to spend a whole lot of money, why didn’t they just throw money at Reyes and Wilson? combined, they cost less than Prince did…
the Tigers’ owner did not think this through. Funny how he decides to go all-in just when all the players who were good fits for the Tigers are taken.
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
He did
He’s 82. He wants a championship this year.
He’s not worried about cleaning up the mess because he probably won’t be around for that. Hmm, I wonder if Ilich went to the Dr recently?
Not disagreeing
But both were signed before the Martinez ACL tear and thus unavailable.
I see this being entirely driven by the owner, over the mild objections of the GM (because he’s not likely to be around to have to clean up the mess either).
I’m thinking all of those Nationals rumours were fed by Boras to up the Tiger’s bid. Boras played this one beautifully by patiently waiting and waiting until someone blinked and decided to get goofy, which he felt was inevitable.
Exactly. That would have made so much more sense it is ridiculous. Could have moved Peralta back to 3B, and signed Carlos Pena or Damon or whomever to replace V-Mart.
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Too much defence in that scenario
The Tigers want SLUGGERZ!!!
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