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Brandon McCarthy as "the new Bautista"

As Blue Jays fans we're very familiar with the story of one Jose Bautista, who at age 29 suddenly became an elite baseball player after years of filling the role of mediocre (at best) utility player. In many this raised the questions "can this happen again?" and "if this can happen again, who are good candidates to make such drastic improvements late in their careers?". Many were also skeptical about the sustainability of Bautista's breakthrough and about the sustainability of breakthroughs like his in general, dismissing it as a fluke. With the 2011 season Bautista just had, the group of skeptics has decreased in number sharply, but that doesn't mean we should expect Bautista-like breakthroughs from similarly aged players to happen with any kind of regularity. He's a special kid, Jose is.

But, haven't we already seen somewhat similar late-career breakthroughs by Alex Gordon and Jacoby Ellsbury? I say somewhat similar in that both were a bit younger than Bautista at the time of their elite seasons, and because they were also more highly regarded than Bautista was at the time of his breakout. The guy I want to discuss here is more similar to Bautista in that, while he was well-regarded as a prospect, he was not expected to be good, much less one of the best in baseball at his position. The fact that Brandon McCarthy's position is on the mound, as a starting pitcher, should not hurt the comparison with Bautista, I think. The two have another important thing in common, which is contract status. McCarthy has only one season left before he hits free agency, leaving Billy Beane in the same situation Alex Anthopoulos was in a year ago: should he believe the season was a fluke or should he believe that McCarthy is now actually elite and offer him a sizable extension?

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If you didn't know that McCarthy's season was that special, I should probably inform you that his FIP was best in the American League among qualified pitchers. His FIP- (park and league-adjusted FIP) was 7th best in MLB, his xFIP- was 12th. Depending on your view of what constitutes an "ace", McCarthy either was an ace, or a very strong number two in 2011. For those who were still worried about Oakland's home park effect: McCarthy's road FIP was 2.94, his road xFIP 3.40. That's very good, and you can be sure that kind of performance would net him a sizable contract in free agency, should he repeat it.

As a Jays fan, it's easy to like McCarthy's new pitching style: he throws strikes, gets groundballs, limits the runs he gives up while working quickly through the opponent's line-up. In fact, McCarthy's new pitching style seems to completely copy Roy Halladay's (pre-2010) pitching style. Sinker, cutter, curveball, all thrown for strikes. The one difference is that McCarthy's curve didn't get anywhere near the number of whiffs Halladay's curve got the past season. His cutter, though, was more whiff-a-licious, which is even more impressive considering that Halladay got to face pitchers and McCarthy never did (he missed the whole interleague period).

While considering potential contract offers, Beane's probably worried about that one other important thing that Halladay has but McCarthy doesn't: durability. McCarthy missed more than a month with a shoulder trouble, and he's had shoulder problems many times before. Someone with as tight a budget as Beane has might not want to commit the kind of money McCarthy will probably command to an injury prone player. And there's another thing to consider: the Athletics' depth at the starting pitcher position, with Brett Anderson, Dallas Braden, Jarrod Parker, Sonny Gray, Tommy Milone, Brad Peacock, Guillermo Moscoso, Josh Outman and Tyson Ross also potentially in the mix for starts in 2013 and beyond.

With all the attention Yu Darvish got, that Prince Fielder is getting, and that Matt Garza might still get if trade talks heat up, nobody seems to be talking about what will happen to Brandon McCarthy. Extension, trade or free agency? Let's speculate!

Poll
What will happen to Brandon McCarthy?
Signs extension with A's
71 votes
Is traded
186 votes
Doesn't sign, goes to free agency
85 votes

342 votes | Poll has closed

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Poll options should have been:

1. Signs extension with A’s
2. Being plucked by AA for a couple of prospects3. Traded to another team
4. Doesn’t sign, goes to free agency

"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)

by HESS2479 on Jan 9, 2012 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

ugh... formatting...

"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)

by HESS2479 on Jan 9, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

seriously, though..

As I’m sure that AA is never idle, and our scouts have watched McCarthy, I hope that they saw a gamble worth taking.

If they did, two things we need to keep in mind:
1. The A’s are one of AA’s favorite trade partners.
2. We need to stop talking about it, as it seems that AA almost never goes with the rumor (exception: Colby Rasmus. although it was more of a wish than a rumor…)

"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)

by HESS2479 on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Johnson was a rumour as well and that came true. I tend to think that AA does have a conversation on every possible scenario, therefore lending some truth to every rumour.

by Al Bundy is my hero on Jan 9, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

When making a list, use the # sign in front of every item to get it formatted correctly

For example:
’# abc
’# def
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becomes:

  1. abc
  2. def
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When you take out the ’.

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by Minor Leaguer on Jan 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

But there are ‘trades’ and there are ‘AA trades’.

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by Frag on Jan 9, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

AND...

great post, Woodman, as ever…

"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assaults of thought on the unthinking." (J.M Keynes)

by HESS2479 on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

It really completely depends on McCarthy doesn't it?

If he’s willing to sign a team friendly contract, Beane does that. He might not play for the A’s the entire length of that contract though.

If he isn’t, Beane trades him.

by siggian on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

how much WAR

does he get from his Twitter?

by benk on Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

At least 10 runs worth, for me.

by MjwW on Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

LOVE this guy

let’s trade Lind for him and Barton

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 9, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sorry but comparing Ellsbury to Bautista is laughable.

Ellsbury has always been a special player. I called a few of his AAA games when he was with Pawtucket and it was amazing the performances he would put on with his bat and speed. You’re maybe forgetting that he was injured last year and wasn’t able to perform how he should. He is also now entering his prime years and thus should be contributing more. The only real attribute he has added with his bat between 2009 and 2011 has been the power he’s shown.

by bjewitt16 on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

sorry we offended your dear Sawx and your hindsight bias

but jumping from a roughly average offensive player to top-15 in MLB basically overnight (that’s ignoring his injured season) is pretty similar to going from roughly average to top-5

by benk on Jan 10, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the point was

Ellsbury has always been considered a player capable of elite performance…1st round draft pick, twice a top-50 A prospect, etc etc. Bautista was a 20th round pick, rule 5 draftee, bolunced around a bunch of organizations.

by MjwW on Jan 10, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

top-15 player?

You do realize that Ellsbury was 2nd in MVP voting last year, ahead of Bautista, and thus was the top ranked offensive player. Your ‘ranking system’ is very curious.

by jabebergeron on Jan 12, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

MjwW is right. The article stated...

“suddenly became an elite baseball player after years of filling the role of mediocre (at best) utility player”…
Bautista was once traded for Robinzon Diaz. At no point in Ellsbury’s career would he have ever been traded for 3 Diaz’, even if you threw in Diaz’ sister, Diaz’ mom or Diaz’ first round pick in next year’s fantasy pool.

by bjewitt16 on Jan 12, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Talked to multiple writers that said there is little to no chance he gets traded.

I think he should be, but that’s partially because I want the Yankees to get him.

Regardless, the price would be high, and there is an injury risk, but I think he’s quite talented.

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by Brandon C. on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

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