Friday Bantering
by Tom Dakers on Feb 10, 2012 1:40 PM EST
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PrintMan, I am just starved for Blue Jay news. I'm even looking forward to being told which Jays 'have come to spring training in the best shape ever'. In fact we should have a contest to guess which player we get told has come 'in the best shape ever' first. Lets do that, tell us who will come to camp in the best shape ever and let's keep track who the writers say that about.
My guess: Brett Cecil.
The National Post tells us that Alex Anthopoulos is saying that the Jays won't be moving their Double-A team from New Hampshire to Ottawa:
"We're thrilled with New Hampshire," Anthopoulos said. "They have the best ballpark in the Eastern League, unbelievable ownership and unbelievable management. It can't get any better for us than New Hampshire."
I guess he couldn't really say 'yeah we can't wait to get out of that dump' but then I really doubt they will be leaving New Hampshire in a hurry.
But then the Jays could be leaving Vegas. @AdamRubinESPN twitted that the Mets could be losing their Triple-A team in Buffalo and then added:
If Buffalo leaves the Mets after this year, it likely would be for the Blue Jays. They could still re-up with Mets. Nothing set in stone.
That would be great for us. Closer to Toronto, easier to get players to Toronto in a hurry, and it would be a much more neutral a park. Far easier to evaluate our Triple-A players if they have more normal numbers. And we wouldn't be so afraid to send prospect pitchers there.
Speaking of the minors the Jays signed Koby Clemens to a minor league contract. He hit 26 homers in 2010 at Double-A Corpus Christi. His career minor league stats are here. I bet he'll enjoy playing at Vegas.
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Thames seems like the obvious answer.
I don't always have exams, but when I do they are DURING the Jays home opener.
He was in pretty good shape before though
I would have said Jesse Litsch, but after seeing that one photo a few weeks ago, it’s got to be Cecil.
Oh, and Koby Clemens? Isn’t he the son of “He who shall not be named”?
/obligatory steroids joke.
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There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison
Have you been?
A firend and I are thinking about trying to make a trip to see Jays minor lagues this summer. Looking at either New Hampshire or Lansing right now. Would be interesting in hearing from anyone who’s been to either
I really want to go to Lansing this summer, there’s gonna be a lot of good pitching prospects there.
by leaflover4ever on Feb 10, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah. It’s unlikely I’d be able to do both, though, and Lansing’s closer.
by leaflover4ever on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
but if you could do both go for it, that would be awesome :D
by leaflover4ever on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
It’s basically either/or at this point…Lansing is closer, but the flip side is, you could fly into Boston, catch a couple games at Fenway (never been) and then hit up NH.
Well that would be pretty much perfect.
I, unfortunately, am a poor student who could not afford it. :P
My summer’s very undecided right now, but catching some minor league games is definitely in my plans.
by leaflover4ever on Feb 10, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
In terms of who you get to see, it would probably depend on when you are going
Late in the season you will probably get to see Marisnick if you go to NH, and the top pitchers in Lansing may already have been moved up to Dunedin by then.
by Playoffs!!!!1 on Feb 10, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
The Lansing ballpark was great, but the NH was amazing (for a MiL park anyway).
Both had terrific atmospheres, it was during playoff time and the crowd was rowdy (in a good way) Both parks have semi-general admission where you pay for a general area, and you can sit wherever. It’s dirt cheap too. I wa able to sit right behind the catcher in both parks, Lansing gives a better view, but the NH is better lit IMO. Saw Syndergaard and Nolin pitch for the Lugnuts and saw McGuire and Molina for the Fi-Cats. If you go I recommend staying after the game to check out the park further and it’s possible to talk with players and coaches, etc… Really good experience, and I got to witness the phenom that is Noah Syndergaard, I could write a whole fanpost of what I saw but I’ll just say that he looked insane. (5IP 8K 2 H 1 BB) and I saw the championship-clinching game at NH which was really fun. I can only imagine how crazy it will be to go through that if/when the Jays win the WS.
by Adamthebluejay on Feb 10, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Lansing is an hour away from me, will probably go this year.
I don't always have exams, but when I do they are DURING the Jays home opener.
I would be perfectly happy if we got Buffalo and stayed with New Hampshire
by leaflover4ever on Feb 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
that would be ideal.
Buffalo would be great for the AAA affiliate. I don’t think there’s another AAA team closer to Toronto.
As much as people may want Ottawa, New Hampshire is a pretty good AA affiliate.
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There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison
Sure, but wasn’t the rumor something to the extent that Ottawa would be the AA affilate and the Fishercats would join the IL? So they’d keep both.
Really though I’d just like to see the Jays get out of Vegas. Vegas makes zero sense for an Eastern team like the Jays. That the Jays have Vegas as an affilate seemingly just as a result of a game of musical chairs is beyond silly.
I think somebody mentioned a potential problem of moving the Fisher Cats to AAA
Something to do with an agreement signed with the Red Sox that they would stay a AA team.
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There is only 1 "n" in Hutchison
It is, and I certainly don't want them to move.
Loyal fans and a great park. I would love the AAA team to get the Buffalo Bisons, it’s only an hour and a half (or so) away and the park looks pretty nice from the outside. Who knows? The Mets’ contract with the Bisons expires after next year. Hopefully the Jays can scoop them up.
by Adamthebluejay on Feb 10, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Another advantage of a Buffalo AAA
is that we might start seeing more Buffaloians (Buffaloers?) taking day trips to the dome to check out their big league brothers. And maybe Jays fans in the Niagara region will hop over the border to catch the Buffalo games. Win-win!
Yes! Buffalo!
I’m a Jays fan from Niagara Falls, USA. The Buffalo Bisons have tremendous fan support and the Mets have driven them to the bottom of the International League. I think it would draw some Western New Yorkers north… coverage of the Jays would expand here especially when Bisons start getting promoted. It would be a perfect marriage and maybe we can convert some of these stinkin’ Yankee fans…
I'd love to see Buffalo as our AAA team, but for the love of all that is holy KEEP AA IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
I get to see New Hampshire games several times a year due to the fact that I live 5 minutes away from rival New Britain Rock Cats (can actually see the stadium from my house at night). I love getting to see some of our young prospects in person.
Buffalo is perfect
Rochester would also be a good option, and they’re likely to be even more unhappy with their affiliation. Ottawa either needs to be a AAA team or affiliate with someone else, since New Hampshire has worked pretty much perfectly for both sides.
Rochester
Also doesn’t have the same geographical alignment with Minnesota that the Mets do with Buffalo. That said, Rochester is a little closer to New York, so we could always poach Buffalo and the Mets poach Rochester, and then leave Minnesota in the lurch.
I’m going to go with Travis Snider.
Also, please let Buffalo happen!
Here's my attempt at a witty sig. Didn't really go so well, methinks.
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by Cam Oegema on Feb 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Best shape ever
my guess, Edwin Encarnacion
I seem to recall Alex saying last year that everybody showed up in great shape, he singled Edwin out saying he was in much better shape which I take as meaning that there is still room for improvement
JP
I already heard him say it on the FAN like a week or two ago. He was going on about how he hired a personal cook and is now in the best shape of his life…
by melochejonathan on Feb 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions
I think they pretty much all always say that.
by leaflover4ever on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
if anyone needs a personal cook
it’s Cecil.
by jaysbrazil on Feb 10, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
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Or just the users who loaded the Addition thingy?
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Feb 10, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have to say Cecil
but I think Drabek is gonna come in strong too. He’s a fierce competitor and I’m pretty sure he’s pissed about last season.
McGowan should be in shape too. Getting another shot at his dream is a good motivator.
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by jmsmorris on Feb 10, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I just blue myself!
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Feb 10, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
have something of a mess on your hands?
His 2011 wRC+ is 26
by Pikachu on Feb 10, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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by Frag on Feb 10, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no
I did
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I know who won't be in the best shape ever...
Travis Snider. That guy should be a professional eater.
"Low, and he walks the bases loaded on 12 straight pitches. How can these guys lay off pitches that close?"
He was complaining on Twitter
that he can’t find pants to fit his hams? Not sure what that means but I doubt it’s good.
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Feb 10, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
I think he meant that his legs are turning into tree trunks, in a good muscular way.
by Al Bundy is my hero on Feb 10, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Koby Clemens
This is just registering, but HUH? According to BA, he’s a 1B – we already have Cooper and McDade for 1B/DH, and both should be playing everyday. Where does he fit in?
Maybe
But why would be sign up for that? (Then again, it’s a month before spring training, so maybe no other options)
He also played a bit of 3b… maybe Jays will try him there again… 3B and 2B are the 2 spots no one of consequence are playing for.
Realistically their lineup right now will be
Hechivarria- SS
Gose- CF
d’Arnaud- C
McDade- 1B/DH
Thames/Snider – LF
Sierra- RF
Cooper 1B/DH
Valbuena/McCoy – 3B
Mayorson – 2B
tough lineup to crack sure, but McDade is no lock and can easily spend more time in AA if Koby out hits him. 3B would be easy to take if you play decent defense and hit. Heck might even get some time in the OF.
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Lansing
Was there for a game last year. It’s a nice park.
I agree with Jays182...
I think Thames will come into spring training in the best shape. He is going to mash 20-25 HR’s this year and make us forget about what a bust Snider is/will be.
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