Blue Jays and Bloggers
Mike Cormack, over at Sportsnet.ca, has a story up about the changing relationship between the Jays and those of us that blog about them, and he quotes Andrew Stoeten from Drunk Jay Fans, Ian from Blue Jay Hunter and your humble host on the subject.
The Jays seem to be trying to be a little friendlier with us bloggers. I think it is a good thing, not that I want to be invited to the clubhouse or to sit in the press box. I'd like to keep a little distance from the players. I don't really want to know that certain players are great guys or that others punch cats in their spare time. I don't want their personalities to cloud my view. I don't want to be saying stupid things, like suggesting a player would make the team 10 games better because of how great he was in the clubhouse. I don't want to an amateur psychologist, trying to figure out if the players' personalities mesh. I don't care about that stuff, I care about what they do on the field.
And I wouldn't want to be writing pieces about their home life. How great they are to their kids/mothers/dogs. It doesn't interest me and the mainstream guys do those well. Nor do I care about writing about Josh Hamilton being at a bar. It isn't my concern and I wouldn't want to be writing about it. A lot of it seems like piling on or taking too much joy in someone else's troubles.
But then there are things I would like. I'd like the team to understand I'm not the enemy. We do a service for the team and I'd like them to understand that. I'd like to be included in press conferences and phone conferences. Right now, it is a bit hit and miss, sometimes they invite us to things, sometimes they don't. It would be nice if it were more consistent. I'd like them to occasionally make a front office person available for interview to us.
One thing they might try is,if they don't want us bloggers asking questions during press conferences, maybe they could do the odd phone chat for just bloggers. Let a handful of us bloggers ask questions of Alex or Tony LaCava or even Paul Beeston for that matter. Sure we might ask the odd dumb question, but I doubt we'll be worse than the mainstream guys.
It is nice that the Jays are giving bloggers some of their time now. I've joked before about trying to explain to the Jays PR folks who we are and what we do. Now, I know they know us, they ask us about our numbers and how we are doing. It is a step forward.
I know it is tough for the Jays to have to do the research on which blogs are worth their time and which ones aren't. And I know the easiest way for the PR people to get into trouble is by giving me some access and then watching me abuse it. All I can do is try to show that I'm an ok guy, that I'll be fair, that I won't rip the team just for the sake of it.
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Great news!
This would be awesome if you guys could get into the pressroom.
Can we start the Gose watch yet?
And then spelt it a completely wrong way in the next paragraph...
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 3, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
I sent him a note,
but since I think of spelling as an art form more than a science, I can’t really too upset.
I blog, therefore I am.
Yea but think about that moving "r" in a longer article
You’d be Tom Drakes then Tom Rdakes (silent ‘R’?)
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 3, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Dakres Darkes Drakes Rdakes
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great piece
it will be interesting to watch the relationship evolve between the Blue Jays and their social media community in the coming months and years.
Anyone notice the 1st comment on said article?
I wonder who banned him/her from BBB?
thisrighthere!
by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Feb 3, 2012 7:04 PM EST reply actions
Where are the comments?
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 3, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Weird.
Chrome doesn’t load the comments, but Firefox does.
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 3, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa
I missed half the article…. Chrome stopped loading after the embedded video…
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 3, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
CHROME IS BAD STAY AWAY
they cut corners to improve page load times, but are dropping files as they do it
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
“We’re trying to be inclusive,” said Brooks, adding the team is currently exploring the possibility of expanding WiFi to more areas of the Rogers Centre. "We’re just kind of wading our toe into it here and seeing where
it goes from there."
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by Redonred on Feb 3, 2012 7:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wait till IT Bowling_Guy reads that.
I was right Wi-Fi is possible in the dome.
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by TonyFernandezSavedMyLife on Feb 3, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
anything is possible
will it give you dial-up like speeds is the question
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 3, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
and FWIW
i just suggest that there may be a lot of interference because of the CN tower and thats why they haven’t done it yet. People who park close know that even there keys to remote lock the car don’t work from a distance.
If they have enough access points so that you are pretty close to them it should work. but if they spread them out too far expect spotty connections through the dome. (i think)
I’m not a network engineer, just an IT guy who has done some networking/signaling courses. So I could be totally wrong as i don’t know the exact science for radio waves bumping into each other all the time.
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 3, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not the reason. if it were interference then cellphones wouldn't work well at the Dome.
It’s more the fact that the Skydome is a wireless network nightmare. From a network/cellphone perspective, stadiums are nightmares because you have so many people crammed into a small area that you can overload the cell/node’s capactiy.
You need to determine what capacity you want. Do you assume that you are going to have 50000 fans with laptops, pads or 3G/4G smartphones? Then it’s siting antennas and then connecting it to a network. It’s also can be pretty expensive.
I did this for a living (telco wireless network engineer) which is I am very familiar with it.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Feb 3, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
they don't work well at the dome
afaik, minor leaguer complains all the time
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Feb 3, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I do!
But I think it’s less thee CN Tower interference and more the network capacity problem. How do they solve it in other stadiums? Have they?
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by Minor Leaguer on Feb 3, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
There's only one way...
More local capacity and more cell towers.
For example at the World Cup in Paris 06(?), France Telecom had to add temporary towers and network equipment so that 100K fans could make calls without issue and not overload the cell.
In honor of the Jays 2nd Baseman who played with fire in more ways than one.
by Damaso's Burnt Shirt on Feb 3, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Wait there are other blogs about the Jays?
Meh, I like my little home here, won’t even search them out.
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BBB is my favourite, but Drunk Jays Fan is really good if you don’t mind excessive swearing. I visit DJF and here multiple times a day. The Getting Blanked Podcast is a really fun and informative listen but again contains swearing if that bothers you. They cover general baseball topics but with a preference to the Jays (all three are Jays fans). I visit Batters Box and Jays Journal weeklyish as well. I’ve just started subscribing to the Baseball Prospectus Podcast. Really good for general baseball talk, and usually lasts around 2ish hours. In Episode 80 they breifly talk about the Jays system (The Bob Seger system). Saying Matt Dean and Nicolino are due for jumps up the system this year. 60 rating for Nicolino’s change up already.
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I'm all for this...
The world is changing and more and more people are reading blogs, than newspapers. I don’t see why they wouldn’t invite Bloggers to do their thing at the games. Even if they created a Blogger booth, I think they would attract more fans. There isn’t a MLB team out there that knows how to really use social media. The Jays Twitter and FB pages are a joke and a complete bore. There is so much potential out there if they stop clinging to 20th century ideas and unleash the 21st century onto the way the game is covered.
Do it Jays! Be an innovator, not a follower!

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