Jon Heyman tells us (why is it always Heyman?) that the Blue Jays offered Edwin Encarnacion a two-year contract with 2 years of vesting options. I'll admit, that's the sort of contract I'd be trying to sell him on. If I am Edwin, I wouldn't be all that excited about it, figuring that I'd be sure to get something better as a free agent.
But, if I'm the Jays that's where I'd start and see where I have to go from there.
blue jays offer to encarnacion was for 2 yrs guaranteed plus vesting option(s). EE didn't counter, hopes to get 4/5 as FA— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) April 26, 2016
jays told encarnacion they may revisit contract talks at AS break. EE loves toronto but seems unlikely to eschew free agency— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) April 26, 2016
On the Bautista side, Heyman (him again?) tells us:
jays believed willing to go 3 yrs (at $20M plus) for bautista (no confirm of official offer). he sought at least 5 for 150M— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) April 26, 2016
Again, I think that's a good place to start. There is no chance that Jose signs that, early in negotiations, but you need a starting point. Jose also, I assume, knows that he isn't getting $30 million for 5 years. But you gotta start somewhere.
I keep hearing the question 'can the Jays win without Jose and Edwin?' and my answer is always the same, it depends on how they replace them. If they decide to go without anyone in right and DH, they will lose without them, of course. But is Anthony Alford becomes a great player, if Rowdy Tellez becomes a good DH....and you have $50 million of cash you aren't spending on two aging players...maybe you can win.
The flip of that question would be 'can the Jays win with a 40 year old Bautista and a 38 year old Encarnacion taking 40% of the team's payroll?' That a good question too.
And we have this:
Team Photo Day! pic.twitter.com/C6JKxJs6Yb— Toronto Blue Jays (@BlueJays) April 26, 2016